From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 7 19:34 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA10075 Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:34:55 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] smap compilation error afther applying yao patch Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 02:51:05 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Length: 379 Status: RO Hi I get the following error when building: smap.c:2570 macro `strpbrk` used without args make[1]: *** [smap.o] Error 1 System info: Linux 2.4.10 (SuSE Linux 7.3) gcc ver. 2.95.3 libc-2.2.4 Any ideas? Regards, Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 7 19:47 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA10096 Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:47:49 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: smap compilation error afther applying yao patch Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 03:03:39 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Length: 555 Status: RO On Friday 08 February 2002 02:51, you wrote: > Hi > > I get the following error when building: > > smap.c:2570 macro `strpbrk` used without args > make[1]: *** [smap.o] Error 1 > > System info: > Linux 2.4.10 (SuSE Linux 7.3) > gcc ver. 2.95.3 > libc-2.2.4 > Sorry but I forgot to mention that we are talking about fwtk 2.1 with the "jumbo" patch applied, but the smap.c should be "clean" Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 7 19:51 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA10104 Thu, 7 Feb 2002 19:51:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rmurphy@mail.itm-inst.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 20:01:26 -0500 To: "fwtk-users" From: Rick Murphy Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: smap compilation error afther applying yao patch In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Length: 496 Status: RO At 02:51 AM 2/8/02 +0100, Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: >Hi > >I get the following error when building: > >smap.c:2570 macro `strpbrk` used without args >make[1]: *** [smap.o] Error 1 Your system defines strpbrk as a macro; line 2570 probably reads extern char *strpbrk(); Comment out that line and it'll probably build OK. -Rick --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 7 20:19 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA10153 Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:19:52 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: smap compilation error afther applying yao patch Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 03:35:54 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 1175 Status: RO On Friday 08 February 2002 02:01, you wrote: > At 02:51 AM 2/8/02 +0100, Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: > >Hi > > > >I get the following error when building: > > > >smap.c:2570 macro `strpbrk` used without args > >make[1]: *** [smap.o] Error 1 > > Your system defines strpbrk as a macro; line 2570 probably reads > extern char *strpbrk(); Guess what? It DOES ;) > Comment out that line and it'll probably build OK. Right again. Thanks a lot! Any comments on what patches are worthwhile? Or rather, should be considered "musts"? Another minor problem: I also apllied the ipbind patch. And I get this error: rlogin-gw.c: In function 'main': rlogin-gw.c:164: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without cast The rlogin-gw builds, and I don't think I'll ever use it. However I am a fan of nice clean compiles, and it seems like a really minor problem: Any ideas on that? >From what I can understand the error is that a variable is "converted" in the wrong mannor, however I don't know c syntax :( Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Fri Feb 8 17:30 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA12627 Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:30:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rmurphy@mail.itm-inst.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 17:39:28 -0500 To: "fwtk-users" From: Rick Murphy Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: smap compilation error afther applying yao patch In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Length: 647 Status: RO At 03:35 AM 2/8/02 +0100, Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: >Any comments on what patches are worthwhile? Or rather, should be considered >"musts"? I'll leave that to the people running in 'production' environments.. >Another minor problem: I also apllied the ipbind patch. And I get this error: > >rlogin-gw.c: In function 'main': >rlogin-gw.c:164: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without cast What does this line read in your version of the (patched) source? -Rick --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Fri Feb 8 17:41 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA12639 Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:41:48 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: guardian.hartwellcorp.com: mail set sender to using -f Message-ID: From: "Michael St. Laurent" To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: smap compilation error afther applying yao patch Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:52:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 1269 Status: RO Well we use your version of the anti-spam patches Rick and I'm definitely in a "production" environment. They're very stable. -------------------- Michael St. Laurent Hartwell Corporation > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Murphy [mailto:rmurphy@itm-inst.com] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:39 PM > To: fwtk-users > Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: smap compilation error afther > applying yao patch > > > At 03:35 AM 2/8/02 +0100, Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: > > >Any comments on what patches are worthwhile? Or rather, > should be considered > >"musts"? > > I'll leave that to the people running in 'production' environments.. > > > >Another minor problem: I also apllied the ipbind patch. And > I get this error: > > > >rlogin-gw.c: In function 'main': > >rlogin-gw.c:164: warning: assignment makes pointer from > integer without cast > > What does this line read in your version of the (patched) source? > -Rick > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: mikes@hartwellcorp.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com > --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Mon Feb 11 14:24 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA18622 Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:24:52 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: smap compilation error afther applying yao patch Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:41:21 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 1034 Status: RO On Friday 08 February 2002 23:39, you wrote: > At 03:35 AM 2/8/02 +0100, Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: > >Any comments on what patches are worthwhile? Or rather, should be > > considered "musts"? > > I'll leave that to the people running in 'production' environments.. Oh, oh :) In general I find it a hassle to apply more than one patch to any given file :) Does anyone have any tips on that? BTW: I did find this link helpful on patches: http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/faq/ It's actually for pine, but has a lot of good general info too. > >Another minor problem: I also apllied the ipbind patch. And I get this > > error: > > > >rlogin-gw.c: In function 'main': > >rlogin-gw.c:164: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without > > cast > > What does this line read in your version of the (patched) source? It reads: colon = strchr(ip,':'); Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Mon Feb 11 14:39 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA18652 Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:39:20 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] ssmtp Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:55:31 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Length: 855 Status: RO Hello I am having trouble with ssmtp. It compiles fine and all of that, however it complains about the Recived line: Must not be from smap. Something like that upon execution of smapd, and delivery to ssmtp. It does forward the mail to my relay, but it puts the original headers in the body, and leaves out From: and Rcpt to: in the new headers. This is ssmtp TIS-0.5alpha :) And smpad and smapd from 2.1 patched with the two Yao patches. I tried to compile an unpatched version of smap from 2.1, and had the same result. The stuff works if I use postfix as MTA. Any pointers? I'd also like some tips on on how you have set up smap, smapd (chroot, permissions, etc). Regards, Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Tue Feb 12 07:36 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA20007 Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:36:41 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:09:58 +0300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Per Gustav Ousdal " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: ssmtp To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1835 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nuqneH, Per Gustav Ousdal said : > I am having trouble with ssmtp. It compiles fine and all of that, however it > complains about the Recived line: Must not be from smap. Something like that > upon execution of smapd, and delivery to ssmtp. It tries to determine sending host from the first Received: line to perform header filtering. Looks like some patches changed its format. > It does forward the mail to my relay, but it puts the original headers in the > body, and leaves out From: and Rcpt to: in the new headers. Should not happen anyways. > This is ssmtp TIS-0.5alpha :) And smpad and smapd from 2.1 patched with the > two Yao patches. I tried to compile an unpatched version of smap from 2.1, > and had the same result. This one is old and outdated. I will send you a new one via personal mail, though it requires fwtk generation 2 api to compile (nlib directory in the same archive, don't forget to make it prior to compiling smap, it will replace libfwall.a). Should work both with smap and with smtpd. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPGkUJKH/mIJW9LeBAQFu+gP+PDz3WnKgUXqqsu/+bnVeKdkznXIWdCet 71RS8VSBCRj3tyxf7Ef/FBBke67BWq04hM329Q4ckis+9Wab1G0Aehowdy2vwPND EPHZi/6Dux+1zYCxnM8/fIMqVu5ix+kicG9cngI7nstnuP87GmTxedFpEAFRyVgd YV6+Dg9NJzc= =aKNW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 15:17 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA24179 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:17:05 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: ssmtp Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:33:44 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 1934 Status: RO On Tuesday 12 February 2002 14:09, you wrote: > nuqneH, > > Per Gustav Ousdal said : > > I am having trouble with ssmtp. It compiles fine and all of that, however > > it complains about the Recived line: Must not be from smap. Something > > like that upon execution of smapd, and delivery to ssmtp. > > It tries to determine sending host from the first Received: line to perform > header filtering. Looks like some patches changed its format. Well, that was my initial though too. But I seem to remember that I did try to compile from a clean FWTK 2.1 tree, and got the same result. > > It does forward the mail to my relay, but it puts the original headers in > > the body, and leaves out From: and Rcpt to: in the new headers. > > Should not happen anyways. Didn't think so either, but it does :) I do ofcourse compile on a different system, not the firewall: But I assume that shouldn't matter? > > This is ssmtp TIS-0.5alpha :) And smpad and smapd from 2.1 patched with > > the two Yao patches. I tried to compile an unpatched version of smap from > > 2.1, and had the same result. > > This one is old and outdated. Phew! Good :) But, does that mean that all your stuff: Including the pop3-gw exists in more current verions than the ones found on fwtk.org ? > I will send you a new one via personal mail, though it requires fwtk > generation 2 api to compile (nlib directory in the same archive, don't > forget to make it prior to compiling smap, it will replace libfwall.a). Thanks for the file. I am howerver a little confused now: "fwtk generation 2 api"? What excatly is that, and where do I find it? > Should work both with smap and with smtpd. Yep. Well, both of them (smap & smtpd) are actually required are they not? Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 15:59 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA24248 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:59:58 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: ssmtp Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:17:08 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 910 Status: RO On Wednesday 13 February 2002 22:33, you wrote: > > I will send you a new one via personal mail, though it requires fwtk > > generation 2 api to compile (nlib directory in the same archive, don't > > forget to make it prior to compiling smap, it will replace libfwall.a). > > Thanks for the file. I am howerver a little confused now: "fwtk generation > 2 api"? What excatly is that, and where do I find it? > Hmmm, I guess I should have looked at the file FIRST before sending this mail :) Sorry, just came from a meeting, and I am dead tired :/ I assume what I got is the gen. 2 api? :) Now there seems to be some pretty "neat stuff" in there :) Some of wich is not on fwtk.org. Some of it labeled early alpha, is that why it's not there? Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 16:49 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA24339 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:49:06 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Message-Id: Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: ssmtp To: "fwtk-users" Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:21:39 +0300 (MSK) Reply-To: "fwtk-users" In-Reply-To: from "Per Gustav Ousdal" at Feb 13, 2002 11:17:08 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Length: 1596 Status: RO nuqneH, I will place the stuff there when i 1) fix portability problems (without involving autoconf) - you already had encounter some, right? Nothing fatal but i want the thing to build clean on almost any Unix. 2) Get rid of legacy code, some of which is damn ugly and i need that anyways for licensing reasons. YOU (Per Gustav Ousdal) WROTE: > > On Wednesday 13 February 2002 22:33, you wrote: > > > I will send you a new one via personal mail, though it requires fwtk > > > generation 2 api to compile (nlib directory in the same archive, don't > > > forget to make it prior to compiling smap, it will replace libfwall.a). > > > > Thanks for the file. I am howerver a little confused now: "fwtk generation > > 2 api"? What excatly is that, and where do I find it? > > > > Hmmm, I guess I should have looked at the file FIRST before sending this mail > :) Sorry, just came from a meeting, and I am dead tired :/ I assume what I > got is the gen. 2 api? :) > > Now there seems to be some pretty "neat stuff" in there :) Some of wich is > not on fwtk.org. Some of it labeled early alpha, is that why it's not there? -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 16:56 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA24360 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:56:19 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Message-Id: Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: ssmtp To: "fwtk-users" Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:29:02 +0300 (MSK) Reply-To: "fwtk-users" In-Reply-To: from "Per Gustav Ousdal" at Feb 13, 2002 10:33:44 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 1961 Status: RO nuqneH, YOU (Per Gustav Ousdal) WROTE: > > It tries to determine sending host from the first Received: line to perform > > header filtering. Looks like some patches changed its format. > > Well, that was my initial though too. But I seem to remember that I did try > to compile from a clean FWTK 2.1 tree, and got the same result. Does the problem still exist with current snapshot? > > > It does forward the mail to my relay, but it puts the original headers in > > > the body, and leaves out From: and Rcpt to: in the new headers. > > > > Should not happen anyways. > > Didn't think so either, but it does :) I do ofcourse compile on a different > system, not the firewall: But I assume that shouldn't matter? Definitely shouldn't. > > > This is ssmtp TIS-0.5alpha :) And smpad and smapd from 2.1 patched with > > > the two Yao patches. I tried to compile an unpatched version of smap from > > > 2.1, and had the same result. > > > > This one is old and outdated. > > Phew! Good :) > > But, does that mean that all your stuff: Including the pop3-gw exists in more > current verions than the ones found on fwtk.org ? Yes ;) There is pretty big difference ;) > > Should work both with smap and with smtpd. > > Yep. Well, both of them (smap & smtpd) are actually required are they not? Nope, smtpd/smtpfwdd is replacement thing for smap/smapd (those two are Obtuse smtpd/smtpfwdd modified to read configuration (nearly) compatible with original fwtk programs) -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 17:07 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA24391 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:07:43 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:24:23 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Length: 1349 Status: RO If any of this (which I am pretty sure it must have) have been discussed on this list before I appologize for making you all bored. But it's simply too "wide" a subject for me to wade trough some mailinglist archive to get the answers :) I just did a search on sourceforge for firewall. Sadly (IMHO) most people seem to think of firewall == packetfilter. I am not saying they are totaly wrong, they are an important *part* of one, but... ;P There is the occational proxy for a spesific protocoll, but what good does that really do? (loads of different config files with different syntax. different log output. Why chose one over the other? How is the code quality?, etc..) Really sad situation if you ask me :( Since IMHO the concept (and even the name) of a firewall tool kit is simply brilliant. A collection of proxies sharing config file/syntax and "standarized" log output. Why isn't there a sourceforge (or similar) project for the proxies (that have fwtk like config syntax) that are not written by TIS? Can TIS claim any rights to the name "FWTK"? Is it like a trademark or something? What are the chances of FWTK ever turning into ("real") open source? Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 17:27 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA24445 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:27:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:33:45 -0500 From: Keith Young Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Organization: V-ONE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Length: 1077 Status: RO Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: > Why isn't there a sourceforge (or similar) project for the proxies (that have > fwtk like config syntax) that are not written by TIS? The closest thing to that would be the "addon" section in www.fwtk.org. There are contributed proxies that mimic FWTK and (in some cases) even use the netperm-table. > Can TIS claim any rights to the name "FWTK"? Is it like a trademark or > something? > My guess is that it would fall under Section 2A in the license agreement: http://www.fwtk.org/fwtk/download/downloading.html#1.3 > What are the chances of FWTK ever turning into ("real") open source? > I'm working on it, but with today's announcement regarding Secure Computing buying Gauntlet/PGP, the future is definately cloudy. They may even decide to pull the FWTK completely.... http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020213/sfw069_1.html -- -- --Keith Young -kyoung@v-one.com --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 17:43 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA24511 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:43:21 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] http-gw - 404 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:00:02 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Length: 525 Status: RO Hmm Weird. Sometimes (a lot of times even) I get: Forbidden You dont't have permisson to access / on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. When trying to access http://www.kvasir.no from behind my http-gw. This is Norways leading search engine :/ What could this be? Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 17:47 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA24544 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:47:30 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Message-Id: Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge To: "fwtk-users" Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 02:17:39 +0300 (MSK) Reply-To: "fwtk-users" In-Reply-To: from "Per Gustav Ousdal" at Feb 14, 2002 12:24:23 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 2114 Status: RO YOU (Per Gustav Ousdal) WROTE: > I just did a search on sourceforge for firewall. Sadly (IMHO) most people > seem to think of firewall == packetfilter. I am not saying they are totaly > wrong, they are an important *part* of one, but... ;P Speaking on packet filters (being offtopic here), Darren Reed's one is definitely the best ;) > There is the occational proxy for a spesific protocoll, but what good does > that really do? (loads of different config files with different syntax. > different log output. Why chose one over the other? How is the code quality?, It depends. There are good ones (e.g., Zorp) and bad ones (e.g. Delegate) and tons of those that are not so clear to see, but most of them do implement a small and repeating set of protocols :( > etc..) Really sad situation if you ask me :( Since IMHO the concept (and even > the name) of a firewall tool kit is simply brilliant. A collection of proxies > sharing config file/syntax and "standarized" log output. > > Why isn't there a sourceforge (or similar) project for the proxies (that have > fwtk like config syntax) that are not written by TIS? > > Can TIS claim any rights to the name "FWTK"? Is it like a trademark or > something? Dunno, free part of my project is called OpenFWTK but it is just first name to come to my mind and i can change it if SC says they don't like it. > What are the chances of FWTK ever turning into ("real") open source? Will see. Maybe we can get similar functionality without legacy code prior to that. All addons can now be compiled without using original core library, i kept backwards compatibility close to 100%. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 18:17 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA24603 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:17:31 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:33:51 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Length: 2230 Status: RO On Wednesday 13 February 2002 23:33, you wrote: > Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: > > Why isn't there a sourceforge (or similar) project for the proxies (that > > have fwtk like config syntax) that are not written by TIS? > > The closest thing to that would be the "addon" section in www.fwtk.org. > There are contributed proxies that mimic FWTK and (in some cases) even > use the netperm-table. Yup, I noticed that one. And those are pretty much the proxies I am talking about. Don't get me wrong: You did a fine job on fwtk.org I'd just like to see something that stimulates and drives forward development a bit more. As an addition to fwtk.org. I understand now from Arks (Is it Ark or Arkan?) previous post why some of his stuff is not there yet: It contains code from TIS. What's the story on the other stuff there? I assume that since it's there it's not in violation of the TIS lisence? Is the other stuff mostly GPL? Just thinking out loud now: Could the sources for these be put on sourceforge (under a common toolkit project)? (even if the original developers have "retired") Would it have any value to do so? > > Can TIS claim any rights to the name "FWTK"? Is it like a trademark or > > something? > > My guess is that it would fall under Section 2A in the license agreement: > http://www.fwtk.org/fwtk/download/downloading.html#1.3 Really? How? Can someone really own the term/name "FWTK" or even "Firewall Tool Kit"? (I am clueless when it comes to stuff like this, (and a whole heap of other things :)) > > What are the chances of FWTK ever turning into ("real") open source? > > I'm working on it, but with today's announcement regarding Secure Computing When you say you are working on it: What exactly does that mean? > buying Gauntlet/PGP, the future is definately cloudy. They may even > decide to pull the FWTK completely.... > > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020213/sfw069_1.html Ouch! Well, if they pull it I really hope there will be an "OpenFWTK" project that uses Gauntlet or FWTK like syntax for the configs, etc.... Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 18:58 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA24667 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:58:54 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 02:15:08 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 2519 Status: RO On Thursday 14 February 2002 00:17, you wrote: > Speaking on packet filters (being offtopic here), Darren Reed's one is > definitely the best ;) :) I assume that this has some connection to *BSD being supperior to Linux? Correct? :) Well, when it comes to packet filters that's my impression too. I use both Linux and OpenBSD (and when it comes to firewalls that translates into security in depth, and don't put all your eggs in one basket). > >  There is the occational proxy for a spesific protocoll, but what good > > does that really do? (loads of different config files with different > > syntax. different log output. Why chose one over the other? How is the > > code quality?, > > It depends. There are good ones (e.g., Zorp) and bad ones (e.g. Delegate) > and tons of those that are not so clear to see, but most of them do > implement a small and repeating set of protocols :( Ah, now you are talking "toolkits" or "suites". Yes, I am aware that there are a few: But most seem to have horrible code and/or they are not gpl :( I didn't know Zorp, but it seems it's not free software either... Do you have an opinion on fk? (http://hairy.beasts.org/fk/) I am unfortunatly not in a position to tell bad code from good code. And for people like us having something like an OpenFWTK is the next best thing to auditing the code personally. That's why ideally i'd like to see a community behind a "OpenFWTK".   > >  Can TIS claim any rights to the name "FWTK"? Is it like a trademark or > >  something? > > Dunno, free part of my project is called OpenFWTK but it is just first name > to come to my mind and i can change it if SC says they don't like it. Hmm, free part? What's the non free part? The TIS code? Or are you planning/making a non-free version also? The name is hardly original :) Although I like it, sorta like a "standard" these days :) But it "sums" up excatly what the "product" is about, and so it's a great name... > >  What are the chances of FWTK ever turning into ("real") open source? > > Will see. Maybe we can get similar functionality without legacy code prior > to that. All addons can now be compiled without using original core > library, i kept backwards compatibility close to 100%. That's great :) What are your opinions on Sourceforge? And if ever, would you be willing to put your code there? Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 13 19:33 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA24732 Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:33:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rmurphy@mail.itm-inst.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:37:18 -0500 To: "fwtk-users" From: Rick Murphy Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Length: 760 Status: RO At 05:33 PM 2/13/02 -0500, Keith Young wrote: I'm working on it, but with today's announcement regarding Secure Computing >buying Gauntlet/PGP, the future is definately cloudy. They may even decide >to pull the FWTK completely.... > > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020213/sfw069_1.html >-- They can't. Trusted Information Systems obtained funding for FWTK from DARPA under the condition that the toolkit would always be available for noncommercial usage. Secure Computing can refuse to make it public domain, but they can't restrict it further than it's already restricted. -Rick --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 07:44 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA26249 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:44:38 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 16:15:54 +0300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Rick Murphy " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1576 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- BTW *was* it sold with Gauntlet/PGP? There was nothing about it in the news. Any known official comments from SC or NAI? Rick Murphy said : > At 05:33 PM 2/13/02 -0500, Keith Young wrote: > I'm working on it, but with today's announcement regarding Secure Computing > >buying Gauntlet/PGP, the future is definately cloudy. They may even decide > >to pull the FWTK completely.... > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020213/sfw069_1.html > >-- > > They can't. > Trusted Information Systems obtained funding for FWTK from DARPA under the > condition that the toolkit would always be available for noncommercial > usage. Secure Computing can refuse to make it public domain, but they can't > restrict it further than it's already restricted. > -Rick _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPGu4iKH/mIJW9LeBAQEmHQP9GMm+P5+LzTWWMz2xaxy1CU1T/fchyUom TFImWXIpjncGQ3eUfbS+cG/zmS9cdFd27HHCgznIpHt7KVSRn+wQflpKgwhoLCpx Qlbzy4xIdAOQi/43D/W1rxvQIySvwippD/F6Ecuzl4Jwkzw3PQAjBJonC2WPPzLr ax9jv00mIIg= =ea/C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 08:37 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA26390 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:37:20 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: spider.usrconsult.be: mail set sender to using -f Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:47:35 +0100 From: Michel Bardiaux Organization: Peaktime Belgium S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 1157 Status: RO Rick Murphy wrote: [snip] > They can't. > Trusted Information Systems obtained funding for FWTK from DARPA under the > condition that the toolkit would always be available for noncommercial > usage. Secure Computing can refuse to make it public domain, but they can't > restrict it further than it's already restricted. > -Rick The exact meaning of "noncommercial usage" in the FWTL license is a recurring topic of discussion, and the conclusion of past threads has always been that it meant "usage which is not commercialization of FWTK". In other words, you cant distribute it for money (actually not even for free IIRC), you cant ask money for consulting related to FWTK, things like that. *But* you can use FWTK to build a firewall through wich transit commercial data. But is "noncommercial usage" taken with the same meaning in DARPA grants? Greetings, -- Michel Bardiaux Peaktime Belgium S.A. Rue Margot, 37 B-1457 Nil St Vincent Tel : +32 10 65.44.15 Fax : +32 10 65.44.10 --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 08:52 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA26436 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:52:20 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:24:34 +0300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Per Gustav Ousdal " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3189 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nuqneH, Per Gustav Ousdal said : > Do you have an opinion on fk? (http://hairy.beasts.org/fk/) Yep, a good project, we discussed wih Matthew if we can share some code, probably authentication server comes to mind first. > I am unfortunatly not in a position to tell bad code from good code. And for > people like us having something like an OpenFWTK is the next best thing to > auditing the code personally. That's why ideally i'd like to see a community > behind a "OpenFWTK".   Sure. > > >  Can TIS claim any rights to the name "FWTK"? Is it like a trademark or > > >  something? > > > > Dunno, free part of my project is called OpenFWTK but it is just first name > > to come to my mind and i can change it if SC says they don't like it. > > Hmm, free part? What's the non free part? The TIS code? Or are you > planning/making a non-free version also? There are bells'n'whistles like Java GUI (yes! we solved the problem TIS/NAI gave up: making an administration GUI that represents text configs to higher level intuitive concepts the only and adequate way so you can even monitor on the fly things that go to netperm-table, without involving any intermediate langiage as it done in Gauntlet, real transparency instead), monitoring/reporting/alert tools, some proxies that do exist in different versions but non-free provide better reporting, pre-installed system (slightly modified OpenBSD on Intel hardware, ISP1100-based) etc etc. Nothing that improves _functionality_, but some things to improve ease of use and makes bundled system one product, not a buch of tools. And - real technical support. I have to do something for profit, otherwise i'd be forced do do something else and have no free time to work on the toolkit, right? > The name is hardly original :) Although I like it, sorta like a "standard" > these days :) But it "sums" up excatly what the "product" is about, and so > it's a great name... > > > >  What are the chances of FWTK ever turning into ("real") open source? > > > > Will see. Maybe we can get similar functionality without legacy code prior > > to that. All addons can now be compiled without using original core > > library, i kept backwards compatibility close to 100%. > > That's great :) What are your opinions on Sourceforge? And if ever, would you > be willing to put your code there? Maybe. Sourceforge looks good. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPGvIoaH/mIJW9LeBAQG+UAQApw2tMyikMlGpbezI+SejOC7TrkHGxi3B MqQ9Ujef4vmqN5qdX5ogx7i6iDrYBwNTgNFIPy+zDMnRcDHyC7Z9tTEKu1CZPOxT HRBtjc0XPTiH5oIGchSSM/BK1xl8loUXZ896UOJl0z6LAddw8JUTl/tBPtPktaoi 3KhmRw8ktVQ= =QFpO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 08:58 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA26455 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:58:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:05:41 -0500 From: Tim Sailer To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Length: 3903 Status: RO Has anyone looked at the T-Rex v1 source from opensourcefirewall.com? The v1 source was open, I have a copy. The rest are not. I went with that due to the support of RADIUS, which we needed for our mandated use of CryptoCard OTP tokens. Maybe we can borrow from that too. Tim On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 05:24:34PM +0300, ark@eltex.ru wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > nuqneH, > > Per Gustav Ousdal said : > > > Do you have an opinion on fk? (http://hairy.beasts.org/fk/) > > Yep, a good project, we discussed wih Matthew if we can share some code, > probably authentication server comes to mind first. > > > I am unfortunatly not in a position to tell bad code from good code. And for > > people like us having something like an OpenFWTK is the next best thing to > > auditing the code personally. That's why ideally i'd like to see a community > > behind a "OpenFWTK".   > > Sure. > > > > >  Can TIS claim any rights to the name "FWTK"? Is it like a trademark or > > > >  something? > > > > > > Dunno, free part of my project is called OpenFWTK but it is just first name > > > to come to my mind and i can change it if SC says they don't like it. > > > > Hmm, free part? What's the non free part? The TIS code? Or are you > > planning/making a non-free version also? > > There are bells'n'whistles like Java GUI (yes! we solved the problem TIS/NAI > gave up: making an administration GUI that represents text configs to higher > level intuitive concepts the only and adequate way so you can even monitor on > the fly things that go to netperm-table, without involving any intermediate > langiage as it done in Gauntlet, real transparency instead), monitoring/reporting/alert tools, > some proxies that do exist in different versions but non-free provide better > reporting, > pre-installed system (slightly modified OpenBSD on Intel hardware, ISP1100-based) > etc etc. Nothing that improves _functionality_, but some things to improve > ease of use and makes bundled system one product, not a buch of tools. And - > real technical support. > > I have to do something for profit, otherwise i'd be forced do do something else > and have no free time to work on the toolkit, right? > > > The name is hardly original :) Although I like it, sorta like a "standard" > > these days :) But it "sums" up excatly what the "product" is about, and so > > it's a great name... > > > > > >  What are the chances of FWTK ever turning into ("real") open source? > > > > > > Will see. Maybe we can get similar functionality without legacy code prior > > > to that. All addons can now be compiled without using original core > > > library, i kept backwards compatibility close to 100%. > > > > That's great :) What are your opinions on Sourceforge? And if ever, would you > > be willing to put your code there? > > Maybe. Sourceforge looks good. > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ > (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| > [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP 6.5.1i > > iQCVAwUBPGvIoaH/mIJW9LeBAQG+UAQApw2tMyikMlGpbezI+SejOC7TrkHGxi3B > MqQ9Ujef4vmqN5qdX5ogx7i6iDrYBwNTgNFIPy+zDMnRcDHyC7Z9tTEKu1CZPOxT > HRBtjc0XPTiH5oIGchSSM/BK1xl8loUXZ896UOJl0z6LAddw8JUTl/tBPtPktaoi > 3KhmRw8ktVQ= > =QFpO > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --- > You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: sailer@bnl.gov > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com -- Tim Sailer Brookhaven National Laboratory (631) 344-3001 --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 09:34 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26520 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:34:44 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:07:10 +0300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Tim Sailer " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1636 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Me. Huge parts c'n'p'd from fwtk _without_ keeping copyrights, that i definitely do not consider as a honrable thing. Even variable and function names are the same, just slightly different text formatting. Another complaint one may pose is that code is huge, questionable quality (i'd never use things like dante) and does sometimes look as bunch of components that differ much in design and philosophy. rpc proxy (udprelay-based) is nice. About Cryptocards - do you mean those ansi x9.9 thingies, why not to use them with fwtk? Tim Sailer said : > Has anyone looked at the T-Rex v1 source from opensourcefirewall.com? The > v1 source was open, I have a copy. The rest are not. I went with that due to > the support of RADIUS, which we needed for our mandated use of CryptoCard > OTP tokens. Maybe we can borrow from that too. > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPGvSnaH/mIJW9LeBAQHLYAP/VEh3A/Pp84IHUmONzQyaUIcKAs7ZfOaU k3teqBtI+NlyHhLevIskt27OQgG0tMo2AeRMaW1lflUp1VLkD8TC8+VyJ49Npxf2 lQbhGXonKfVH/69XFyVBEp2pppxXQI6kD8b5KDDku4o/Z3FdePxKX5L/Txz4m9ee 5pPC6hgMhMk= =vqAG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 09:43 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26526 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:43:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:52:05 -0500 From: Tim Sailer To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 1111 Status: RO On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 06:07:10PM +0300, ark@eltex.ru wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Me. Huge parts c'n'p'd from fwtk _without_ keeping copyrights, that i > definitely do not consider as a honrable thing. Even variable and function names > are the same, just slightly different text formatting. I never compared. > Another complaint one may pose is that code is huge, questionable quality > (i'd never use things like dante) and does sometimes look as bunch of > components that differ much in design and philosophy. I'm using pieces, not the whole 'suite'. > rpc proxy (udprelay-based) is nice. > > About Cryptocards - do you mean those ansi x9.9 thingies, why not to use them > with fwtk? No support, and we have the RADIUS server in place for this function. Having the dialup, VPN, and proxies all use the same authentication is nice. Tim -- Tim Sailer Brookhaven National Laboratory (631) 344-3001 --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 09:52 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26536 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:52:19 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:24:55 +0300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Tim Sailer " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1218 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I think it is trivial task to teach authsrv to "proxy" authentication requests to Radius. I hope i will include this functionality in my version. Tim Sailer said : > > About Cryptocards - do you mean those ansi x9.9 thingies, why not to use them > > with fwtk? > > No support, and we have the RADIUS server in place for this function. Having > the dialup, VPN, and proxies all use the same authentication is nice. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPGvWwqH/mIJW9LeBAQG1IgP/e2VfdRBB95sTCai0WjAaS5G9PFrclmYU RxrwR4CVHifwSLAmq35TyHyWuAD6Qq5uiFKC2J7pOzMH8d3rqMMuMvm/8Sd5el45 UZQgpaO7gys6KdAFJn+VZvO9DFRoMbpYkycarMZMWouMWQlZyXSL7blsglgwk2AC rbn7tsBpWn4= =9Kv4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 09:55 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26541 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:55:56 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 16:04:59 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 3190 Status: RO On Thursday 14 February 2002 15:24, you wrote: > nuqneH, > > Per Gustav Ousdal said : > > Do you have an opinion on fk? (http://hairy.beasts.org/fk/) > > Yep, a good project, we discussed wih Matthew if we can share some code, > probably authentication server comes to mind first. Well, this sounds good. I just hope that you intend to keep and agree on the Gauntlet/FWTK style config file and syntax. And I would prefer if they also shared their style of reporting/logging. If you two would agree on at last those to things: IMHO it would make a lot of sense to put up an OpenFWTK on sourceforge. That's basically all you have to agree on to do such a thing, becoz if you ever disagree on the implementation of a spesific proxy, and/or other stuff these could simply be different branches/flavours. Sure that could be a little confusing to the avarage user: but to find the different branches all in one place, and with shared config/logging sure would be a lot better than the present situation. It would also cater for intgrating the original FWTK into the site/project once (if) it turns Open Source. > > Hmm, free part? What's the non free part? The TIS code? Or are you > > planning/making a non-free version also? > > There are bells'n'whistles like Java GUI (yes! we solved the problem > TIS/NAI gave up: making an administration GUI that represents text configs > to higher level intuitive concepts the only and adequate way so you can > even monitor on the fly things that go to netperm-table, without involving > any intermediate langiage as it done in Gauntlet, real transparency > instead), monitoring/reporting/alert tools, some proxies that do exist in > different versions but non-free provide better reporting, > pre-installed system (slightly modified OpenBSD on Intel hardware, > ISP1100-based) etc etc. Nothing that improves _functionality_, but some > things to improve ease of use and makes bundled system one product, not a > buch of tools. And - real technical support. Sounds awesome :) And I think you would benefit from keeping the firewall code on sourceforge. Lots of eyes to review it, and add fixes (good for security), community feeling etc (Should make more people eager to buy your product). Ofcoz there is always the chance that someone will start making a free "GUI" (yes I know its more than a GUI), (maybe even under the OpenFWTK project?), but that's a risk that will always be there anyways: Just means that you have to do and even better job on your product, and have real value in your support :) > I have to do something for profit, otherwise i'd be forced do do something > else and have no free time to work on the toolkit, right? :) Sure, I don't have a problem with that. Just tell me if you need a Norwegian distributor/reseller :) > > That's great :) What are your opinions on Sourceforge? And if ever, would > > you be willing to put your code there? > > Maybe. Sourceforge looks good. Now convince Matthew and go for it :) Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 11:28 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA26777 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:28:27 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:01:18 +0300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Per Gustav Ousdal " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3180 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nuqneH, Per Gustav Ousdal said : > > Per Gustav Ousdal said : > > > Do you have an opinion on fk? (http://hairy.beasts.org/fk/) > > > > Yep, a good project, we discussed wih Matthew if we can share some code, > > probably authentication server comes to mind first. > > Well, this sounds good. I just hope that you intend to keep and agree on the > Gauntlet/FWTK style config file and syntax. And I would prefer if they also > shared their style of reporting/logging. Unfortunately he did not like this idea, that's why we still have 2 different projects. > It would also cater for intgrating the original FWTK into the site/project > once (if) it turns Open Source. Yep, but we do not even know for sure if SC obtained it with Gauntlet or not :( And what are they going to do with it. > > > Hmm, free part? What's the non free part? The TIS code? Or are you > > > planning/making a non-free version also? > > > > There are bells'n'whistles like Java GUI (yes! we solved the problem > > TIS/NAI gave up: making an administration GUI that represents text configs > > to higher level intuitive concepts the only and adequate way so you can > > even monitor on the fly things that go to netperm-table, without involving > > any intermediate langiage as it done in Gauntlet, real transparency > > instead), monitoring/reporting/alert tools, some proxies that do exist in > > different versions but non-free provide better reporting, > > pre-installed system (slightly modified OpenBSD on Intel hardware, > > ISP1100-based) etc etc. Nothing that improves _functionality_, but some > > things to improve ease of use and makes bundled system one product, not a > > buch of tools. And - real technical support. > > I have to do something for profit, otherwise i'd be forced do do something > > else and have no free time to work on the toolkit, right? > > :) Sure, I don't have a problem with that. Just tell me if you need a > Norwegian distributor/reseller :) Yep, we need. Please contact me by personal mail, we should discuss that more closely. > > > That's great :) What are your opinions on Sourceforge? And if ever, would > > > you be willing to put your code there? > > > > Maybe. Sourceforge looks good. > > Now convince Matthew and go for it :) I think i will after i clean things up a bit. But convincing Matthew is not that easy :( _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPGvtXKH/mIJW9LeBAQH7WQP/dpRm3gWauE2h3tbHI/yhNSZDZllS7fFm HDnDkXw4yacDMOeqxPEuGqOSPrf8ZU6cstyAwfxw/XLPeuUnqL3cDnbsQxaZNtT/ J7aRd8NIFi6dgqYUP0BDf786AvShxb33U9vT47o4G9QsDcuO8+8hT3rcgZDmLZdq 8Ykr2QxRE54= =4i5R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 11:35 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA26796 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:35:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:41:27 -0500 From: Keith Young Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Organization: V-ONE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Length: 673 Status: RO ark@eltex.ru wrote: >>It would also cater for intgrating the original FWTK into the site/project >>once (if) it turns Open Source. >> > Yep, but we do not even know for sure if SC obtained it with Gauntlet or not :( > And what are they going to do with it. > Last time that I spoke to someone at NAI, they mentioned that the intellectual property of the FWTK was indeed supposed to be part of the sale. I don't know if it was part of the final SC sale though. -- -- --Keith Young -kyoung@v-one.com --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Thu Feb 14 14:52 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA27393 Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:52:35 -0500 (EST) From: Per Gustav Ousdal Organization: SirCon A/S To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:02:38 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 2345 Status: RO On Thursday 14 February 2002 18:01, you wrote: > > Well, this sounds good. I just hope that you intend to keep and agree on > > the Gauntlet/FWTK style config file and syntax. And I would prefer if > > they also shared their style of reporting/logging. > > Unfortunately he did not like this idea, that's why we still have 2 > different projects. Ouch! What a shame...I just think there are so many good reasons to go with that syntax... > > It would also cater for intgrating the original FWTK into the > > site/project once (if) it turns Open Source. > > Yep, but we do not even know for sure if SC obtained it with Gauntlet or > not :( And what are they going to do with it. That's true. But I don't think that should stop the realization of an OpenFWTK any longer. Like I said, either way... :) Also, depending on the status of Keiths work: Who knows? I could be an advantage? But I guess only Keith is in a position to judge that. How does SC's stand on open source? (Did a quick search on their site: at least there seems to be a freeware version of smartfilter for Squid) > > :) Sure, I don't have a problem with that. Just tell me if you need a > > > > Norwegian distributor/reseller :) > > Yep, we need. Please contact me by personal mail, we should discuss that > more closely. Okeedokee, I will. > > > > That's great :) What are your opinions on Sourceforge? And if ever, > > > > would you be willing to put your code there? > > > > > > Maybe. Sourceforge looks good. > > > > Now convince Matthew and go for it :) > > I think i will after i clean things up a bit. But convincing Matthew is not > that easy :( Well, I am crossing my fingers: Problem is I have been doing so for a long time, seems the situation has not changed much: status of the FWTK code, lack of decent open source "firewall toolkit/proxy suite" and please dont't take any offence, I appreciate your efforts: In your case there is "always" these legacy code issues :) IMHO we need an opensource FWTK now, (and have for quite some time) And if you have the libraries all ported to GPL code. That would be a good start for a project where people could contribute FWTKish proxies. Per --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Fri Feb 15 05:16 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA28837 Fri, 15 Feb 2002 05:16:32 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:49:39 +0300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Per Gustav Ousdal " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1926 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nuqneH, Actually there is not _that_ much legacy code. The complete list follows: authsrv - we need new one anyways, existing lacks some semi-vital features ftp-gw - TIS ftp-gw is ugly hack and should be replaced asap tn-gw, rlogin-gw - antuan@internetmedia.ru is now working on ssh-gw that will probably do tn-gw too, netacl - pretty trivial that's all! or did i miss something? Per Gustav Ousdal said : > > > Now convince Matthew and go for it :) > > > > I think i will after i clean things up a bit. But convincing Matthew is not > > that easy :( > > Well, I am crossing my fingers: Problem is I have been doing so for a long > time, seems the situation has not changed much: status of the FWTK code, lack > of decent open source "firewall toolkit/proxy suite" and please dont't take > any offence, I appreciate your efforts: In your case there is "always" these > legacy code issues :) > > IMHO we need an opensource FWTK now, (and have for quite some time) And if > you have the libraries all ported to GPL code. That would be a good start for > a project where people could contribute FWTKish proxies. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPGznw6H/mIJW9LeBAQFkXgP/SqkXZAS3GzjdAIygyiTCcB3JgGMdvuz3 cA96uMV127ogFd5wt1VJKvbhmt06VElKpwW9I36em706s3itcvMpdoRWCqBQHuv9 jNOOAIH5op/M8q844pV+2PAC4cf/KQf92pC+lgOUS/H6u/uSR46n3eAvHYrN72Cm BNiGwZIbG3g= =xhhb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Fri Feb 15 10:27 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA00052 Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:27:34 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: spider.usrconsult.be: mail set sender to using -f Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:37:42 +0100 From: Michel Bardiaux Organization: Peaktime Belgium S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 619 Status: RO Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: > > IMHO we need an opensource FWTK now, (and have for quite some time) And if > you have the libraries all ported to GPL code. That would be a good start for > a project where people could contribute FWTKish proxies. > Is it already decided that the libraries would be GPL as opposed to LGPL? Greetings, -- Michel Bardiaux Peaktime Belgium S.A. Rue Margot, 37 B-1457 Nil St Vincent Tel : +32 10 65.44.15 Fax : +32 10 65.44.10 --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Fri Feb 15 10:57 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA00131 Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:57:31 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:30:14 +0300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Michel Bardiaux " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1204 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I think license will be BSD-style. Michel Bardiaux said : > Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: > > > > IMHO we need an opensource FWTK now, (and have for quite some time) And if > > you have the libraries all ported to GPL code. That would be a good start for > > a project where people could contribute FWTKish proxies. > > > Is it already decided that the libraries would be GPL as opposed to > LGPL? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPG03lqH/mIJW9LeBAQGasgP8DC7T4FEJZEY3xWFTSow2uyssL3DU77yS MowxV9kupL0LzVJ0C0/7jlz9+u0pOwVL9H9EpbN+w4ppe/iNJFZyJ3csuOB2xkSZ 0i0uRsivGTN60M3hc29iyrpdBN3+huSpaLbvOsvUblGUXmzEXbQPDihxZGzzbTR6 RhJ8D3CzKIY= =CDs8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Fri Feb 15 11:09 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA00165 Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:09:24 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: spider.usrconsult.be: mail set sender to using -f Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:20:38 +0100 From: Michel Bardiaux Organization: Peaktime Belgium S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 959 Status: RO ark@eltex.ru wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I think license will be BSD-style. Ouch! For the library, that's the worst of all, since it allows the making of proprietary, *incompatible* derivatives. It might be good for the proxies, though. > > Michel Bardiaux said : > > > Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: > > > > > > IMHO we need an opensource FWTK now, (and have for quite some time) And if > > > you have the libraries all ported to GPL code. That would be a good start for > > > a project where people could contribute FWTKish proxies. > > > > > Is it already decided that the libraries would be GPL as opposed to > > LGPL? > -- Michel Bardiaux Peaktime Belgium S.A. Rue Margot, 37 B-1457 Nil St Vincent Tel : +32 10 65.44.15 Fax : +32 10 65.44.10 --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Mon Feb 18 10:31 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA05925 Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:31:36 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:03:53 +0300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: from "Michel Bardiaux " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1748 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hmm, what is the reason for one to make incompatible library instead of using standard documented (yes, there will be something like programmers guide and style guide for syslog and configuration etc) one ? Michel Bardiaux said : > ark@eltex.ru wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > I think license will be BSD-style. > > Ouch! For the library, that's the worst of all, since it allows the > making of proprietary, *incompatible* derivatives. It might be good for > the proxies, though. > > > > > Michel Bardiaux said : > > > > > Per Gustav Ousdal wrote: > > > > > > > > IMHO we need an opensource FWTK now, (and have for quite some time) And if > > > > you have the libraries all ported to GPL code. That would be a good start for > > > > a project where people could contribute FWTKish proxies. > > > > > > > Is it already decided that the libraries would be GPL as opposed to > > > LGPL? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPHEl6aH/mIJW9LeBAQEosgQAkozPT7YiX89OHcUX/cdc9CX0JNy3xin3 Me+7COiGvG+netwArGMr0ekUdyMoi2H57MrD4YMQZCZeSCy9aJ6MgYaEub79h3TP 8M8Loexnpy1eF4bCdEfxk/4RSgCMvMzrcvlNCGRbuNR1d1osfqfLMLcFtsgecsIa wvd03FzZWHs= =Khrf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Mon Feb 18 10:48 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA05954 Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:48:37 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: spider.usrconsult.be: mail set sender to using -f Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:58:46 +0100 From: Michel Bardiaux Organization: Peaktime Belgium S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: FWTK - GPL - Sourceforge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 1063 Status: RO ark@eltex.ru wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hmm, what is the reason for one to make incompatible library instead of > using standard documented (yes, there will be something like programmers > guide and style guide for syslog and configuration etc) one ? No *good* reason, nevertheless they (the makers of proprietary software) will do it unless prevented. They can't help it, it's a deep compulsion. > > Michel Bardiaux said : > > > ark@eltex.ru wrote: > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > I think license will be BSD-style. > > > > Ouch! For the library, that's the worst of all, since it allows the > > making of proprietary, *incompatible* derivatives. It might be good for > > the proxies, though. > > -- Michel Bardiaux Peaktime Belgium S.A. Rue Margot, 37 B-1457 Nil St Vincent Tel : +32 10 65.44.15 Fax : +32 10 65.44.10 --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 20 07:26 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA11090 Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:26:04 -0500 (EST) From: ark@eltex.ru Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:57:36 +0300 Message-Id: Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: [fwtk-users] ansi x9.9 authentication To: "fwtk-users" X-Virus-Scanned: by Eltex TC List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 923 Status: RO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nuqneH, Does anybody still have a copy of x9.9 patches for authsrv, used to be (iirc) on www.snark.dropbear.id.au (host is no longer in dns)? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBPHOdP6H/mIJW9LeBAQEDjAP/RQzJoy0lMfxZVznEDxatltFzcLPuPW26 Y4rOMVsZTqDJb0CWomzaRE7xJtswYAf6vwcPG0FrICGhz+DpR3Dabh3uj3ZX7AEz W6YE9r0hiasn8jixOg8EFWu/+hxNtQexD3IOr5dGXYvOFa5vWDmpnsnb4zSBM5ng X2hD33U5pR4= =6KNE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 20 11:10 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA11753 Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:10:50 -0500 (EST) Date: 20 Feb 2002 16:21:53 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "saurabh agarwal" Reply-To: "fwtk-users" To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] packet capture device Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists.tislabs.com id LAA11753 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Length: 274 Status: RO hi, can somebody tell me the difference between packet capture device and interface.and what they are. ronnie. --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Mon Feb 25 04:41 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA24283 Mon, 25 Feb 2002 04:41:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:51:45 +0100 (MET) From: lebayle Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Subject: [fwtk-users] "n2a get_local_info" error log To: "fwtk-users" Cc: lebayle@esrf.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-MD5: 4/Pgpb5ezQMDwU6tOBpjKQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 CDE Version 1.3 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 775 Status: RO Since I installed some extensions (block lists) to smap, I sometimes get "smap[9394]: n2a get_local_info: open to get interface configuration: No such file or directory", apparently only when marking a message as being spam (i.e. adding a specific field in the message header). The issue was raised on the list but never addressed ... Does anybody have a clue (I suspect either the chrooted environment or a problem of cross-compilation - compiled with gcc/Solaris7 and ran on Solaris2.5) ? Thanks a lot in advance, Bruno LEBAYLE (lebayle@esrf.fr) European Synchrotron Radiation Facility - Grenoble, FRANCE --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com From bounce-fwtk-users-303@listserv.nai.com Wed Feb 27 21:53 EST 2002 Received: from listserv.nai.com (firewall-user@listserv.nai.com [161.69.213.6]) by lists.tislabs.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA03881 Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:53:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rmurphy@mail.itm-inst.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:55:50 -0500 To: "fwtk-users" From: Rick Murphy Subject: [fwtk-users] Re: "n2a get_local_info" error log Cc: lebayle@esrf.fr In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: "fwtk-users" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Length: 1241 Status: RO At 10:51 AM 2/25/02 +0100, lebayle wrote: >Since I installed some extensions (block lists) to smap, I sometimes get >"smap[9394]: n2a get_local_info: open to get interface configuration: No >such file or directory", apparently only when marking a message as being >spam (i.e. adding a specific field in the message header). > >The issue was raised on the list but never addressed ... >Does anybody have a clue (I suspect either the chrooted environment or a >problem of cross-compilation - compiled with gcc/Solaris7 and ran on >Solaris2.5) ? This is a classic case of what UNIX error messages are for - put the message into a search and see what pops out. So, use your OS sources and grep. :-) A Google search for "n2a get_local_info" shows that this is reported by WU-FTPD users and NTPD users as well. However, there doesn't appear to be any answers. You can try looking in your resolver library for a "n2a" module; perhaps a "strings" command on that will give some hints about what file is missing. I'm sure it's something missing from the chroot area. -Rick --- You are currently subscribed to fwtk-users as: fwtk-archive@lists.tislabs.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-fwtk-users-303A@listserv.nai.com