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Hi all,

Sorry about the delay, but I've been trrying all the suggestions from this group,
plus a few experiments of my own...

As requested here's the output from the script suggested:

icmp_destunreach_rate:    100
icmp_echo_ignore_all:    0
icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts:    0
icmp_echoreply_rate:    0
icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses:    0
icmp_paramprob_rate:    100
icmp_timeexceed_rate:    100
igmp_max_memberships:    20
ip_always_defrag:    0
ip_autoconfig:    0
ip_default_ttl:    64
ip_dynaddr:    0
ip_forward:    0
ip_local_port_range:    1024    4999
ip_masq_debug:    0
ip_no_pmtu_disc:    0
ipfrag_high_thresh:    262144
ipfrag_low_thresh:    196608
ipfrag_time:    30
tcp_fin_timeout:    180
tcp_keepalive_probes:    9
tcp_keepalive_time:    7200
tcp_max_ka_probes:    5
tcp_max_syn_backlog:    128
tcp_retrans_collapse:    1
tcp_retries1:    7
tcp_retries2:    15
tcp_rfc1337:    0
tcp_sack:    1
tcp_stdurg:    0
tcp_syn_retries:    10
tcp_syncookies:    0
tcp_timestamps:    1
tcp_window_scaling:    1

I tried the same on the redhat 5 machine, but the output was so wildly different
that I got no clues - I hope that this is informative.

I've tried it with an etherlink Pro 100 and a 3com 3c509 with no difference
between the two.

Thanks,
Derek

Donald J Smith wrote:

> At 11:10 AM 3/23/00 +0000, Derek Smith wrote:
> >[To be removed from this list send the message "unsubscribe fwtk-users" in
> the
> >BODY of a mail message to majordomo@ex.tis.com.]
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I've been running tis on redhat 5 for about a year with no real
> >problems.  When I recently upgraded to 6.1 I found that the http-gw was
> >having problems handling sites with cgi scripts, failing with a message
> >to the user "connection reset by peer" although the amount of data
> >passed as recorded in the logs was the same for both 5 and 6.1.
> >
> >The problem occurs whether the http-gw is run from inetd, or as a
> >daemon.
> How about something like a listing of you network configuration try
> cd /proc/sys/net/ipv4
>
> for i in `ls -1`
>  do
> echo $i >> /tmp/netconfig.out
>  cat $i >> /tmp/netconfig.out
>  done
> this should provide a better clue as to how your network is configured.
>
> >
> >The same symptoms show with both Netscape and IE.
> >
> >I haven't been able to find any mention of this problem on redhat sites,
> >or tis faq's, so any suggestions / comments would be very welcome.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Derek
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Don Smith                               General Dynamics Information Systems
> Systems Administrator                   8005 South Chester St
>                                         EngleWood, Co. 80112
> Phone (303) 649-7554
> FAX   (303) 649-7504                    donald.j.smith@gd-is.com
> Error msgs that I love:
> "Keyboard not found press F1 to continue" (pc bios)
> "Harddrive controller failure insert new disk and press any key to
> continue" (pc bios)
> "The disk is write protected Remove the write protect or
>  use another disk." (nt)
> User must change his password before he logs in the first time. (nt)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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Did you try the patch that was sent to you that will solve this
problem, which, incidentally, is included in the FAQ? I've included it
again.

-tony


On 02-Apr-2000 Derek Smith wrote:
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry about the delay, but I've been trrying all the suggestions
> from this group,
> plus a few experiments of my own...
> 
> As requested here's the output from the script suggested:
> 
> icmp_destunreach_rate:    100
> icmp_echo_ignore_all:    0
> icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts:    0
> icmp_echoreply_rate:    0
> icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses:    0
> icmp_paramprob_rate:    100
> icmp_timeexceed_rate:    100
> igmp_max_memberships:    20
> ip_always_defrag:    0
> ip_autoconfig:    0
> ip_default_ttl:    64
> ip_dynaddr:    0
> ip_forward:    0
> ip_local_port_range:    1024    4999
> ip_masq_debug:    0
> ip_no_pmtu_disc:    0
> ipfrag_high_thresh:    262144
> ipfrag_low_thresh:    196608
> ipfrag_time:    30
> tcp_fin_timeout:    180
> tcp_keepalive_probes:    9
> tcp_keepalive_time:    7200
> tcp_max_ka_probes:    5
> tcp_max_syn_backlog:    128
> tcp_retrans_collapse:    1
> tcp_retries1:    7
> tcp_retries2:    15
> tcp_rfc1337:    0
> tcp_sack:    1
> tcp_stdurg:    0
> tcp_syn_retries:    10
> tcp_syncookies:    0
> tcp_timestamps:    1
> tcp_window_scaling:    1
> 
> I tried the same on the redhat 5 machine, but the output was so
> wildly different
> that I got no clues - I hope that this is informative.
> 
> I've tried it with an etherlink Pro 100 and a 3com 3c509 with no
> difference
> between the two.
> 
> Thanks,
> Derek
> 
> Donald J Smith wrote:
> 
>> At 11:10 AM 3/23/00 +0000, Derek Smith wrote:
>> >[To be removed from this list send the message "unsubscribe
>> >fwtk-users" in
>> the
>> >BODY of a mail message to majordomo@ex.tis.com.]
>> >
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I've been running tis on redhat 5 for about a year with no real
>> >problems.  When I recently upgraded to 6.1 I found that the
>> >http-gw was
>> >having problems handling sites with cgi scripts, failing with a
>> >message
>> >to the user "connection reset by peer" although the amount of
>> >data
>> >passed as recorded in the logs was the same for both 5 and 6.1.
>> >
>> >The problem occurs whether the http-gw is run from inetd, or as a
>> >daemon.
>> How about something like a listing of you network configuration
>> try
>> cd /proc/sys/net/ipv4
>>
>> for i in `ls -1`
>>  do
>> echo $i >> /tmp/netconfig.out
>>  cat $i >> /tmp/netconfig.out
>>  done
>> this should provide a better clue as to how your network is
>> configured.
>>
>> >
>> >The same symptoms show with both Netscape and IE.
>> >
>> >I haven't been able to find any mention of this problem on redhat
>> >sites,
>> >or tis faq's, so any suggestions / comments would be very
>> >welcome.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Derek
>> >
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------
>> Don Smith                               General Dynamics
>> Information Systems
>> Systems Administrator                   8005 South Chester St
>>                                         EngleWood, Co. 80112
>> Phone (303) 649-7554
>> FAX   (303) 649-7504                    donald.j.smith@gd-is.com
>> Error msgs that I love:
>> "Keyboard not found press F1 to continue" (pc bios)
>> "Harddrive controller failure insert new disk and press any key to
>> continue" (pc bios)
>> "The disk is write protected Remove the write protect or
>>  use another disk." (nt)
>> User must change his password before he logs in the first time.
>> (nt)
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----------

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Hi,

I have problems in submitting http-forms which use the "post" method 
through our tis-firewall.

If I save the html-file, modify "post" to "get" and use this modified
form, everything works fine.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks,
Stefan Jais
___________________________________________
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On 24-Mar-00 dw@Netzstation.net wrote:
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> Hi @ll,
> 
> I've got a problem with getting ICQ through our FWTK-Firewall.
> 
> I installed udp-relay on our firewall and made the following configuration:
> 
> 
> relay 192.168.0.* * 4000 icq.mirabilis.com 4000 any
> relay 192.168.0.* * 4001 icq.mirabilis.com 4001 any
> relay 192.168.0.* * 4002 icq.mirabilis.com 4002 any
> relay 192.168.0.* * 4003 icq.mirabilis.com 4003 any
> relay 192.168.0.* * 4004 icq.mirabilis.com 4004 any
> relay 192.168.0.* * 4005 icq.mirabilis.com 4005 any
> relay 192.168.0.* * 4006 icq.mirabilis.com 4006 any
> relay icq.mirabilis.com * 4000 192.168.0.* 4000 any
> relay icq.mirabilis.com * 4001 192.168.0.* 4001 any
> relay icq.mirabilis.com * 4002 192.168.0.* 4002 any
> relay icq.mirabilis.com * 4003 192.168.0.* 4003 any
> relay icq.mirabilis.com * 4004 192.168.0.* 4004 any
> relay icq.mirabilis.com * 4005 192.168.0.* 4005 any
> relay icq.mirabilis.com * 4006 192.168.0.* 4006 any

Try this one (works for me):

relay 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.255.0 * 4000 icq.mirabilis.com 4000 any

--
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I did apply the patch for Netscape clients (Although I had the problem with
Internet-Explorer) and everything worked fine

Stefan

> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have problems in submitting http-forms which use the "post" method 
> through our tis-firewall.
> 
> If I save the html-file, modify "post" to "get" and use this modified
> form, everything works fine.
> 
> Any suggestions ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Stefan Jais
> ___________________________________________
> Stefan Jais, WESTCAM GmbH
> Eduard-Bodem-Gasse 5, A-6020 Innsbruck
> Tel: +43-512-364160-0, Fax: +43-512-364160-7
> sj@westcam.co.at, http://www.westcam.at
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Hi all,

OK, "It's a fair cop" - I tried the patch on our 6.0 machine which was also
exhibiting the same problems, but I hadn't tried it on the 6.1 machine which is
our live system - I've now installed it on the live machine and sure enough it's
working fine.

Apologies for my density in this,
and many thanks to Tony & Ko for beating me around the head with the answer until
I gave it a proper try!

Cheers everybody,
Derek

Tony Gale wrote:

> Did you try the patch that was sent to you that will solve this
> problem, which, incidentally, is included in the FAQ? I've included it
> again.
>
> -tony
>
> On 02-Apr-2000 Derek Smith wrote:
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> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry about the delay, but I've been trrying all the suggestions
> > from this group,
> > plus a few experiments of my own...
> >
> > As requested here's the output from the script suggested:
> >
> > icmp_destunreach_rate:    100
> > icmp_echo_ignore_all:    0
> > icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts:    0
> > icmp_echoreply_rate:    0
> > icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses:    0
> > icmp_paramprob_rate:    100
> > icmp_timeexceed_rate:    100
> > igmp_max_memberships:    20
> > ip_always_defrag:    0
> > ip_autoconfig:    0
> > ip_default_ttl:    64
> > ip_dynaddr:    0
> > ip_forward:    0
> > ip_local_port_range:    1024    4999
> > ip_masq_debug:    0
> > ip_no_pmtu_disc:    0
> > ipfrag_high_thresh:    262144
> > ipfrag_low_thresh:    196608
> > ipfrag_time:    30
> > tcp_fin_timeout:    180
> > tcp_keepalive_probes:    9
> > tcp_keepalive_time:    7200
> > tcp_max_ka_probes:    5
> > tcp_max_syn_backlog:    128
> > tcp_retrans_collapse:    1
> > tcp_retries1:    7
> > tcp_retries2:    15
> > tcp_rfc1337:    0
> > tcp_sack:    1
> > tcp_stdurg:    0
> > tcp_syn_retries:    10
> > tcp_syncookies:    0
> > tcp_timestamps:    1
> > tcp_window_scaling:    1
> >
> > I tried the same on the redhat 5 machine, but the output was so
> > wildly different
> > that I got no clues - I hope that this is informative.
> >
> > I've tried it with an etherlink Pro 100 and a 3com 3c509 with no
> > difference
> > between the two.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Derek
> >
> > Donald J Smith wrote:
> >
> >> At 11:10 AM 3/23/00 +0000, Derek Smith wrote:
> >> >[To be removed from this list send the message "unsubscribe
> >> >fwtk-users" in
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> >> >
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >I've been running tis on redhat 5 for about a year with no real
> >> >problems.  When I recently upgraded to 6.1 I found that the
> >> >http-gw was
> >> >having problems handling sites with cgi scripts, failing with a
> >> >message
> >> >to the user "connection reset by peer" although the amount of
> >> >data
> >> >passed as recorded in the logs was the same for both 5 and 6.1.
> >> >
> >> >The problem occurs whether the http-gw is run from inetd, or as a
> >> >daemon.
> >> How about something like a listing of you network configuration
> >> try
> >> cd /proc/sys/net/ipv4
> >>
> >> for i in `ls -1`
> >>  do
> >> echo $i >> /tmp/netconfig.out
> >>  cat $i >> /tmp/netconfig.out
> >>  done
> >> this should provide a better clue as to how your network is
> >> configured.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >The same symptoms show with both Netscape and IE.
> >> >
> >> >I haven't been able to find any mention of this problem on redhat
> >> >sites,
> >> >or tis faq's, so any suggestions / comments would be very
> >> >welcome.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >
> >> >Derek
> >> >
> >> >
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -----------
> >> Don Smith                               General Dynamics
> >> Information Systems
> >> Systems Administrator                   8005 South Chester St
> >>                                         EngleWood, Co. 80112
> >> Phone (303) 649-7554
> >> FAX   (303) 649-7504                    donald.j.smith@gd-is.com
> >> Error msgs that I love:
> >> "Keyboard not found press F1 to continue" (pc bios)
> >> "Harddrive controller failure insert new disk and press any key to
> >> continue" (pc bios)
> >> "The disk is write protected Remove the write protect or
> >>  use another disk." (nt)
> >> User must change his password before he logs in the first time.
> >> (nt)
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -----------
>
> ---
> E-Mail: Tony Gale <gale@syntax.dera.gov.uk>
> index, n.:
>         Alphabetical list of words of no possible interest where an
>         alphabetical list of subjects with references ought to be.
>
> The views expressed above are entirely those of the writer
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hi..

I am using BSDI and having problem in compiling fwtk 2.1..
when i write make ...it says 
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At 03:03 AM 4/4/00 +0500, usman qureshi wrote:
>hi..
>
>I am using BSDI and having problem in compiling fwtk 2.1..
>when i write make ...it says
>Makefile....line 16 need an operator.
>
>what does this mean ??????

use 'fixmake' to convert the makefiles to BSD format before you try to build.
(Usually this question happens when someone tries to use fixmake on a 
non-BSD system).
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hi list,

i am a new user of the FWTK2.0,and I have a question for smap.
i have three computers,
one is a firewall(eth0:192.168.2.254,eth1:192.168.1.254, DNS),
one is a server(eth0:192.168.2.3,mail server),
one is a client(eth0:192.168.1.178).
My DNS works well,and my mail server works well.
My smap & smapd on firewall seem to be configured well, and I have two
MX record in named.fw(/var/named):
    IN    MX   1  firewall.linux.fw.mycom.
    IN    MX  10 mail.linux.fw.mycom.
ON the client ,smtp server is configured:firewall.linux.fw.mycom

But,when I send a mail from the client ,the error show:"netscape was
unable to connect to the SMTP server.The server may be down or may be
incorrectly configured."
the firewall's log file (/var/log/messags) show:smap connect but
acceptes QUIT command ,and exit.

What is a matter? Any ideas?
Best

    gaohong













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Given a typical firewall setup like:

  ----firewall----dmz-----router-+-------internal servers
         |                       +-------adm/economy
        vpn                      +-------workstations

Wouldn't it be safest to place vpn directly on the firewall, as shown?
Vpn could be placed on the router, but if the vpn is compromized, access
may be possible to the whole internal net, right?

Now, if several depts. must be interconnectet through vpn, I guess more
netcards can simply be added to the firewall, or another router can be
added there, like:

  ----firewall----dmz
         |
      router-+--vpn
             +--vpn
             +--vpn

Any experiences with vpn products that works well in a mixed Linux/NT
server and Linux/windoze workstation environment are welcome.
Ditto with making (different versions of) ssh work in above situations.

One more thing: When several public services is placed on the dmz, it
should suffice to split the dmz with a hub, or is a switch nessesary
here?
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MONZ wrote:
> 
> Given a typical firewall setup like:
> 
>   ----firewall----dmz-----router-+-------internal servers
>          |                       +-------adm/economy
>         vpn                      +-------workstations
> 
> Wouldn't it be safest to place vpn directly on the firewall, as shown?

Yes. That is one method of installation that we do with our VPN product
(Gauntlet/Raptor/Progressive + SmartGate VPN = SmartFireWall).

It usually works okay... just be wary of things such as CPU load and
disk space for logging.

> Vpn could be placed on the router, but if the vpn is compromized, access
> may be possible to the whole internal net, right?

Very true. I wouldn't recommend this at all.

> Now, if several depts. must be interconnectet through vpn, I guess more
> netcards can simply be added to the firewall, or another router can be
> added there, like:
> 
>   ----firewall----dmz
>          |
>       router-+--vpn
>              +--vpn
>              +--vpn
> 
> Any experiences with vpn products that works well in a mixed Linux/NT
> server and Linux/windoze workstation environment are welcome.
> Ditto with making (different versions of) ssh work in above situations.
> 
> One more thing: When several public services is placed on the dmz, it
> should suffice to split the dmz with a hub, or is a switch nessesary
> here?

Depends. If you have a fairly high amount of traffic on that net, a
switch would be a better solution. However, note that sniffing traffic
or intrusion detection systems won't work well on a switch.

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Hi...

I am using BSDI and ip-filter 3.3.12 with FWTK2.1 to make transparent ftp.
Have any one done it before ???

Any help regarding this ...Plzzz

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MONZ wrote:
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> Given a typical firewall setup like:
> 
>   ----firewall----dmz-----router-+-------internal servers
>          |                       +-------adm/economy
>         vpn                      +-------workstations
> 
> Wouldn't it be safest to place vpn directly on the firewall, as shown?

Can't locate the source where I (at least) believe I saw the above
setup.
Further reading clearified that vpn is most often established as a pure
software solution on the firewall using one and same internet
connection.
But does situations exist where one would choose a separate connection?

I find it amazing that so few are working with vpn; by now I should've
been corrected here, like on three other security/firewall
maillist/newsgroups.
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Hi,
sorry, to understand this thread: 
SOme theoretical things about the questions:
vpn is as fare as i know virtual private network.
It is a possibility to connect some far away places through the internet
by ip-tunneling.
The IP-traffic is cipherd and packed into other ip-packets. Being at the
destination place the original data is decoded.
If i understand you correctly, the question is, where to encode / decode 
the packets?
If this is misleading, please correct me. 

Markus


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> MONZ wrote:
> >
> > Given a typical firewall setup like:
> >
> >   ----firewall----dmz-----router-+-------internal servers
> >          |                       +-------adm/economy
> >         vpn                      +-------workstations
> >
> > Wouldn't it be safest to place vpn directly on the firewall, as shown?
> 
> Can't locate the source where I (at least) believe I saw the above
> setup.
> Further reading clearified that vpn is most often established as a pure
> software solution on the firewall using one and same internet
> connection.
> But does situations exist where one would choose a separate connection?
> 
> I find it amazing that so few are working with vpn; by now I should've
> been corrected here, like on three other security/firewall
> maillist/newsgroups.
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Keith Young wrote:

> > Given a typical firewall setup like:
> >
> >   ----firewall----dmz-----router-+-------internal servers
> >          |                       +-------adm/economy
> >         vpn                      +-------workstations
> >
> > Wouldn't it be safest to place vpn directly on the firewall, as shown?
> > Vpn could be placed on the router, but if the vpn is compromized, access
> > may be possible to the whole internal net, right?
> Very true. I wouldn't recommend this at all.

I find it quite strange that the firewall administrator doesn't have direct
control of the external router to implement initial network filtering (Increase
security, reduce traffic hitting the firewall). e.g.

Ext network----Ext Router----firewall----dmz----Internal Router----.....

In the above case using an external router, this could be used as the VPN end
point, as with have done over a number of technologies. A caveat however, the
router vendors have been quite slow deploying fully IPSEC compliant solutions, and
in some cases require a mix of part IPSEC + proprietary to make VPNs (This
normally makes these solutions less friendly ;) )

It really depends on the type of client connecting I guess, remote site or remote
user. I like Keiths SmartGate for users (especially with SmartCards), external
router based solution for sites. Horses for courses I guess,

Just my 2p worth,

--Gareth

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Hello

Please tell me how safe it is to run CROND on the firewall machine.

Thanks
N.K.Narang


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Gareth Bromley wrote:
> Keith Young wrote:
> 
> > > Given a typical firewall setup like:
> > >
> > >   ----firewall----dmz-----router-+-------internal servers
> > >          |                       +-------adm/economy
> > >         vpn                      +-------workstations
> > >
> > > Wouldn't it be safest to place vpn directly on the firewall, as
> > > shown?
> > > Vpn could be placed on the router, but if the vpn is compromized,
> > > access may be possible to the whole internal net, right?

> > Very true. I wouldn't recommend this at all.
> 
> I find it quite strange that the firewall administrator doesn't have
> direct control of the external router to implement initial network
> filtering (Increase security, reduce traffic hitting the firewall). e.g.
> 
> Ext network----Ext Router----firewall----dmz----Internal Router----.....
> 
> In the above case using an external router, this could be used as the VPN
> end point, as with have done over a number of technologies. A caveat
> however, the router vendors have been quite slow deploying fully IPSEC
> compliant solutions, and in some cases require a mix of part IPSEC +
> proprietary to make VPNs (This normally makes these solutions less
> friendly ;) )
> 
> It really depends on the type of client connecting I guess, remote site
> or remote user. I like Keiths SmartGate for users (especially with
> SmartCards), external router based solution for sites.

You're right. The institution for whom I'm looking at this, does have a
Cisco1600 as frontend, but it's been set up by the ISP who still
controls it, and no info is available. They are somewhat dissatified
with the ISP and are shopping for another ;-

I'll have to find out more about the Cisco. The problem is that possibly
several institutions will be linked on a vpn, but may choose different
external routers and firewalls. Fortunately, some of them are not yet on
the internet, so I'm hoping to lay out a uniform structure the rest will
adhere to. Which relates to your remark on friendliness...

Links to relevant info are more than welcome.
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Markus Schreier wrote:
> sorry, to understand this thread:
> SOme theoretical things about the questions:
> vpn is as fare as i know virtual private network.
> It is a possibility to connect some far away places through the internet
> by ip-tunneling.
> The IP-traffic is cipherd and packed into other ip-packets. Being at the
> destination place the original data is decoded.
> If i understand you correctly, the question is, where to encode / decode
> the packets?
> If this is misleading, please correct me.

It's not. If you saw my second selvcorrecting posting, you'd see I found
out I initially had an abnormal view on vpn :- I thought vpn was always
setup on a separate internet connection, which is clearly not the case.
What can I say? Vpn is new to me...

I need to have another topic clarified:
What's the security difference between a multi-nic'ed firewall/router
and a firewall-dmz-router solution?
Of course the router can do nat, thus providing an extra layer of
security, but so can the firewall/router, though I understand that a
compromized firewall/router may give more direct access to the internal
network.
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At 08:46 PM 4/5/00 +0530, Naresh Narang wrote:
>Please tell me how safe it is to run CROND on the firewall machine.
cron on it's own isn't a big problem. Check what the cron jobs run to make 
sure they don't open any vulnerabilities; have no user accounts on the 
firewall that can add their own bad cron jobs.
         -Rick


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hello all:

now I am reading ftp-gw source code. please help me  or give some advice.

I confused when and where do "rladdr" and "riaddr" get their value?

thanks in advance.

wen

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Hello,

I've a fwtk2.1 box, patched with ipbind 1.2, and the relevant patches for 
http-gw from the fwtk.org site.  I even patched it with the old (but still 
useful) ftp continuation line patch, which is no longer on the main fwtk 
patch list.

If I try to access ftp.novatel.com, I get Error 501. The site works fine if 
I ftp to it through ftp-gw, but fails through http-gw.  Other ftp sites 
work properly through http-gw.  The site works properly without an http-gw 
proxy in the way.  I've confirmed this at three different locations, one 
running an older version of ipbind, one running the current, and one not 
running it at all.  All have the other http-gw patches.

Any thoughts?

Cheers!
Jon


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The same way other fwtk proxies do, calling peername() function from 
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wen <wen@hisense.qd.sd.cn> said :

> now I am reading ftp-gw source code. please help me  or give some advice.
> 
> I confused when and where do "rladdr" and "riaddr" get their value?
> 
> thanks in advance.
 

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Apply the enclosed patch.

(avenger, would you *please* add this to the web site).

-tony



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> Hello,
> 
> I've a fwtk2.1 box, patched with ipbind 1.2, and the relevant
> patches for 
> http-gw from the fwtk.org site.  I even patched it with the old
> (but still 
> useful) ftp continuation line patch, which is no longer on the main
> fwtk 
> patch list.
> 
> If I try to access ftp.novatel.com, I get Error 501. The site works
> fine if 
> I ftp to it through ftp-gw, but fails through http-gw.  Other ftp
> sites 
> work properly through http-gw.  The site works properly without an
> http-gw 
> proxy in the way.  I've confirmed this at three different
> locations, one 
> running an older version of ipbind, one running the current, and
> one not 
> running it at all.  All have the other http-gw patches.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Cheers!
> Jon

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I have an internal Exchange Server which users are
trying to reach with Outlook client.

I'm plugging port 135 (rpc) which Outlook uses.

On the proxy (using iptrace, it's an AIX box) I can
see traffic between both the user Outlook client, and
the proxy, and also the proxy and the Exchange server.

It seems to set up a connection just fine, and then
one side seems to drop it.

I suspect the problem is that the client/server
addresses are imbeded in the data, which of course
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of an intelligent proxy for Exchange data?  Anyone got
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Hello

        Smap is working perfectly all right and the mail is delivered to
Internal and external sites and it has been working for last about 2
months. Now the problem is that recently the mail to any
username@yahoo.com is not being delivered. smapd hands over the mail to
sendmail and ps shows:

mx2.mail.yahoo.com. : user open

and it stays that way for long time. In the maillog it shows:

stat=Deferred: Connection reset by mx2.mail.yahoo.com.
OR
timeout waiting for input from mx2.mail.yahoo.com. during client
greeting

Now these deferred mails (all destined for yahoo.com) are being
collected in the mailq and since sendmail runs only via smapd; I have to
run sendmail -q from cron. But still the problem remains. Not being able
to send mail to any user @yahoo.com. DNS is working all right and mail
to all other sites can be sent without any problem.

Could anyone please tell me what I should do?

N.K.Narang

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I type make and it comes back with the below ..... I have att my
Makefile.config

Thank you 
jonathan

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/smapd'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/smapd'
all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/netacl
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/netacl'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/netacl'
all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/plug-gw
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/plug-gw'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/plug-gw'
all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/ftp-gw
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/ftp-gw'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/ftp-gw'
all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/tn-gw
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/tn-gw'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/tn-gw'
all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/rlogin-gw
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/rlogin-gw'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/rlogin-gw'
all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/http-gw
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/http-gw'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/http-gw'
all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/x-gw
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/x-gw'
cc -I.. -g -DLINUX -I/usr/X11/include   -c dialog.c -o dialog.o
In file included from dialog.c:12:
ulib.h:26: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
dialog.c:14: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
dialog.c:15: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
dialog.c:16: X11/StringDefs.h: No such file or directory
dialog.c:19: X11/Xaw/Cardinals.h: No such file or directory
dialog.c:20: X11/Xaw/Paned.h: No such file or directory
dialog.c:21: X11/Xaw/Label.h: No such file or directory
dialog.c:22: X11/Xaw/Box.h: No such file or directory
dialog.c:23: X11/Xaw/Command.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [dialog.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/x-gw'
make: *** [all] Error 2
root@beta:/home/jonathanp/fwtk > 



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running on a 4 bit CPU, written by 2 bit Company, who can't stand 1 bit
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running on a 4 bit CPU, written by 2 bit Company, who can't stand 1 bit
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#  Copyright (c) 1993, Trusted Information Systems, Incorporated
#  All rights reserved.
# 
#  Redistribution and use are governed by the terms detailed in the
#  license document ("LICENSE") included with the toolkit.
#

#
#	Author: Marcus J. Ranum, Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
#
# RcsId: "$Header: /home/rmurphy/fwtk/fwtk/RCS/Makefile.config.linux,v 1.2 1998/01/13 23:50:46 rmurphy Exp $"


# Your C compiler (eg, "cc" or "gcc")
CC=	cc


# program to use for installation -- this may or may not preserve
# old versions (or whatever). assumes that it takes parameters:
# copy source dest
CP=	cp


# Defines for your operating system
#
DEFINES=-DLINUX
#DEFINES=-DSYSV -DSOLARIS

# Options for your compiler (eg, "-g" for debugging, "-O" for
# optimizing, or "-g -O" for both under GCC)
#COPT=	-g -traditional $(DEFINES)
COPT=	-g $(DEFINES)
#COPT=	-O $(DEFINES)

# Version of "make" you want to use
#MAKE=	gnumake
MAKE=	make


# Your ranlib utility (use "touch" if you don't have ranlib)
RANLIB=	ranlib
#RANLIB=	touch


# Destination directory for installation of binaries
DEST=	/usr/local/etc


# Destination directory for installation of man pages
#DESTMAN=	$(DEST)/../man


# Names of any auxiliary libraries your system may require (e.g., -lsocket)
# If you want to link against a resolver library, specify it here.
AUXLIB=
#AUXLIB= -lsocket
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# separate library - uncomment the following line if authsrv fails to build.
AUXLIB= -lcrypt

# For Solaris:
#AUXLIB= -lresolv -lsocket -lnsl


# DBM library should be specified if it is an external library or
# you with to use a different one than what is included in libc
#DBMLIB=	-lndbm
# for Linux:
DBMLIB=-lgdbm
# "Linux" is such a ephemeral concept. Unfortunately, one of the
# significant incompatibilities between distributions and versions
# is where the DBM libraries end up. "-ldbm", "-ldb", or "-lgdbm" could
# work for you.  "-lgdbm" works for me (Slackware Linux 2.3).
# for BSD:
#DBMLIB=

# Flags to pass to the linker (eg, -static for static binaries under GCC,
# or -Bstatic for static binaries under SunOS 4.1.x)
#LDFL=	-Bstatic
#LDFL=
LDFL= -g -static
# Flags for X gateway link - usually the same as LDFL
XLDFL=-g


# Location of the fwtk sources [For #include by any external tools needing it]
FWTKSRCDIR=/u/b/mjr/firewall/fwtk
#FWTKSRCDIR=/usr/local/src/fwtk


# Location of X libraries for X-gw
XLIBDIR=/usr/X11/lib
#XLIBDIR=/usr/local/X11R5/lib

# X Libraries
# For BSD:
#XLIBS= -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lipc
#XLIBS =  -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11
# for Linux:
XLIBS =  -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 -lc
# for BSD/OS 2.0:
#XLIBS = -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lXext
# For SunOS:
#XLIBS = -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11

# Location of X include files
#XINCLUDE=/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xaw3d
XINCLUDE=/usr/X11/include
#XINCLUDE=/usr/local/X11R5/include

# Objects to include in libfwall for SYSV
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Looks like you didn't install the X11 development packages. Either
that or the header files aren't under /usr/X11/include which is where
you've set them to be.

-tony

On 06-Apr-2000 Jonathan Peers wrote:
> I type make and it comes back with the below ..... I have att my
> Makefile.config
> 
> Thank you 
> jonathan
> 
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/smapd'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/smapd'
> all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/netacl
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/netacl'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/netacl'
> all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/plug-gw
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/plug-gw'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/plug-gw'
> all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/ftp-gw
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/ftp-gw'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/ftp-gw'
> all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/tn-gw
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/tn-gw'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/tn-gw'
> all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/rlogin-gw
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/rlogin-gw'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/rlogin-gw'
> all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/http-gw
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/http-gw'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/http-gw'
> all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/x-gw
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/x-gw'
> cc -I.. -g -DLINUX -I/usr/X11/include   -c dialog.c -o dialog.o
> In file included from dialog.c:12:
> ulib.h:26: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
> dialog.c:14: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
> dialog.c:15: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
> dialog.c:16: X11/StringDefs.h: No such file or directory
> dialog.c:19: X11/Xaw/Cardinals.h: No such file or directory
> dialog.c:20: X11/Xaw/Paned.h: No such file or directory
> dialog.c:21: X11/Xaw/Label.h: No such file or directory
> dialog.c:22: X11/Xaw/Box.h: No such file or directory
> dialog.c:23: X11/Xaw/Command.h: No such file or directory
> make[1]: *** [dialog.o] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/x-gw'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> root@beta:/home/jonathanp/fwtk > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Definition of Windows 95 : 
> A 32 bit GUI, running on a 16 bit shell, running ontop of an 8 bit
> OS,
> running on a 4 bit CPU, written by 2 bit Company, who can't stand 1
> bit
> competition.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Definition of Windows 95 : 
> A 32 bit GUI, running on a 16 bit shell, running ontop of an 8 bit
> OS,
> running on a 4 bit CPU, written by 2 bit Company, who can't stand 1
> bit
> competition.

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Hi Naresh,
we have the same problems sending mail to yahoo as well. 
I tend to belive it is a yahoo-problem.

Greetings from Wiesbaden, Germany
Markus

Naresh Narang wrote:
> 
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> 
> Hello
> 
>         Smap is working perfectly all right and the mail is delivered to
> Internal and external sites and it has been working for last about 2
> months. Now the problem is that recently the mail to any
> username@yahoo.com is not being delivered. smapd hands over the mail to
> sendmail and ps shows:
> 
> mx2.mail.yahoo.com. : user open
> 
> and it stays that way for long time. In the maillog it shows:
> 
> stat=Deferred: Connection reset by mx2.mail.yahoo.com.
> OR
> timeout waiting for input from mx2.mail.yahoo.com. during client
> greeting
> 
> Now these deferred mails (all destined for yahoo.com) are being
> collected in the mailq and since sendmail runs only via smapd; I have to
> run sendmail -q from cron. But still the problem remains. Not being able
> to send mail to any user @yahoo.com. DNS is working all right and mail
> to all other sites can be sent without any problem.
> 
> Could anyone please tell me what I should do?
> 
> N.K.Narang

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At 06:58 PM 4/6/00 +0200, Jonathan Peers wrote:
>I type make and it comes back with the below ..... I have att my
>Makefile.config
>
>Thank you 
>jonathan
>
>make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/smapd'
>make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/smapd'
>all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/netacl
CUT several lines of the same make "errors"
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/http-gw'
>all: /home/jonathanp/fwtk/x-gw
>make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathanp/fwtk/x-gw'
Heres where your real errors begin the other errors simply say that the
required files 
are all uptodate.
>cc -I.. -g -DLINUX -I/usr/X11/include   -c dialog.c -o dialog.o
>In file included from dialog.c:12:
>ulib.h:26: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
>dialog.c:14: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
>dialog.c:15: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
>dialog.c:16: X11/StringDefs.h: No such file or directory
>dialog.c:19: X11/Xaw/Cardinals.h: No such file or directory
>dialog.c:20: X11/Xaw/Paned.h: No such file or directory
>dialog.c:21: X11/Xaw/Label.h: No such file or directory
>dialog.c:22: X11/Xaw/Box.h: No such file or directory
>dialog.c:23: X11/Xaw/Command.h: No such file or directory
This clearly says that your /usr/lib/X11/Xaw/ is missing files (or the
whole directory is missing either)
When I install the fwtk I NEVER add the X stuff to my os. But I will ALWAYS
get errors from the make 
unless I comment out the x-gw stuff. Since I don't gateway X in or out of
my firewall this is acceptable to me.
In fact sometimes I comment out all but ftp and smap stuff cause those are
the two I ALWAYS use.
I removed most of the rest of this message but will made a few comments to
hopefully help you.
Look for #########################


>#  Copyright (c) 1993, Trusted Information Systems, Incorporated
>#  All rights reserved.
># 
>#  Redistribution and use are governed by the terms detailed in the
>#  license document ("LICENSE") included with the toolkit.
>#
>
>#
>#	Author: Marcus J. Ranum, Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
>#
># RcsId: "$Header: /home/rmurphy/fwtk/fwtk/RCS/Makefile.config.linux,v 1.2
1998/01/13 23:50:46 rmurphy Exp $"
>
>
># Your C compiler (eg, "cc" or "gcc")
>CC=	cc
>
>
># program to use for installation -- this may or may not preserve
># old versions (or whatever). assumes that it takes parameters:
># copy source dest
>CP=	cp
>
>
># Defines for your operating system
>#
>DEFINES=-DLINUX
>#DEFINES=-DSYSV -DSOLARIS
>
># Options for your compiler (eg, "-g" for debugging, "-O" for
># optimizing, or "-g -O" for both under GCC)
>#COPT=	-g -traditional $(DEFINES)
>COPT=	-g $(DEFINES)
>#COPT=	-O $(DEFINES)
>
># Version of "make" you want to use
>#MAKE=	gnumake
>MAKE=	make
>
>
># Your ranlib utility (use "touch" if you don't have ranlib)
>RANLIB=	ranlib
>#RANLIB=	touch
>
>
># Destination directory for installation of binaries
>DEST=	/usr/local/etc
>
>
># Destination directory for installation of man pages
>#DESTMAN=	$(DEST)/../man
>
>
># Names of any auxiliary libraries your system may require (e.g., -lsocket)
># If you want to link against a resolver library, specify it here.
>AUXLIB=
>#AUXLIB= -lsocket
># Some versions of Linux have broken the crypt() function out into a
># separate library - uncomment the following line if authsrv fails to build.
>AUXLIB= -lcrypt
>
># For Solaris:
>#AUXLIB= -lresolv -lsocket -lnsl
>
>
># DBM library should be specified if it is an external library or
># you with to use a different one than what is included in libc
>#DBMLIB=	-lndbm
># for Linux:
>DBMLIB=-lgdbm
># "Linux" is such a ephemeral concept. Unfortunately, one of the
># significant incompatibilities between distributions and versions
># is where the DBM libraries end up. "-ldbm", "-ldb", or "-lgdbm" could
># work for you.  "-lgdbm" works for me (Slackware Linux 2.3).
># for BSD:
>#DBMLIB=
>
># Flags to pass to the linker (eg, -static for static binaries under GCC,
># or -Bstatic for static binaries under SunOS 4.1.x)
>#LDFL=	-Bstatic
>#LDFL=
>LDFL= -g -static
># Flags for X gateway link - usually the same as LDFL
>XLDFL=-g
>
>
># Location of the fwtk sources [For #include by any external tools needing
it]
############################################################################
#############
THIS is WRONG. It is MarcusRathum's home directory. Your version of fwtk
resides in /home/jonathanp/fwtk/smapd. djs
############################################################################
#############
>FWTKSRCDIR=/u/b/mjr/firewall/fwtk
>#FWTKSRCDIR=/usr/local/src/fwtk
>
>
># Location of X libraries for X-gw
############################################################################
###############
This maybe wrong or you may not have loaded Xlibs at all. djs
############################################################################
###############
>XLIBDIR=/usr/X11/lib
>#XLIBDIR=/usr/local/X11R5/lib
>
># X Libraries
># For BSD:
>#XLIBS= -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lipc
>#XLIBS =  -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11
># for Linux:
>XLIBS =  -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 -lc
># for BSD/OS 2.0:
>#XLIBS = -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lXext
># For SunOS:
>#XLIBS = -L$(XLIBDIR) -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11
>
># Location of X include files
############################################################################
###############
This maybe wrong or you may not have loaded Xlibs at all. djs
############################################################################
###############
>#XINCLUDE=/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xaw3d
>XINCLUDE=/usr/X11/include
>#XINCLUDE=/usr/local/X11R5/include
>
># Objects to include in libfwall for SYSV
>SYSVOBJ= signal.o
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don Smith                               General Dynamics Information Systems
Systems Administrator                   8005 South Chester St
                                        EngleWood, Co. 80112
Phone (303) 649-7554
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Error msgs that I love: 
"Keyboard not found press F1 to continue" (pc bios)
"Harddrive controller failure insert new disk and press any key to
continue" (pc bios)
"The disk is write protected Remove the write protect or
 use another disk." (nt)
User must change his password before he logs in the first time. (nt)
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Hi,
	I have a Sun Ultra-1 running ftp-gw from TIS 2.1.
	Unfortunatly whenever I connect to it from Solaris
	FTP client (or from perl Net::FTP method), ftp data
	sockets are left on the gateway.  Anybody seen this before?

	mqh


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>>>>> "Mike" == Mike Q Hiller <mqh@tfn.com> writes:

Mike> 	I have a Sun Ultra-1 running ftp-gw from TIS 2.1.
Mike> 	Unfortunatly whenever I connect to it from Solaris
Mike> 	FTP client (or from perl Net::FTP method), ftp data
Mike> 	sockets are left on the gateway.  Anybody seen this before?

TIME_WAIT is normal. All sockets are left in TIME_WAIT after they're
closed. If you want to shorten the amount of time, use ndd to tune
tcp_close_wait_interval (or whatever it's called on your version of solaris
- I think they renamed it in 8).

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Hi

I would like to turn of logging for specific traffic on our Gauntlet firewall
5.0, by default extensive logging is turned on, is there a way of turning
logging off, let say for http traffic.

Thanks in advance

Marcus




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hello all:

now I want to test fwtk performance to get maximal connection number that fwtk can support. what is the maximal connection numbe that fwtk can support?   how to test?

thanks.

wen



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Hi,

we are also experiencing problems with yahoo and have been for the past
week.  Not sure what they are up to over there.  We handle a very large
amount of email and have setup a number of seperate mail queues. Any
mail not delivered after an hour gets moved to an hourly queue, any mail
in that queue which is not delivered after 6 hours gets moved to a 6
hourly queue etc.

We run sendmail in queue mode over these other queues from cron at
regular, but less frequent intervals to reduce the load on our machine. 
The primary queue is of course still looked after by gauntlet's mqueue
process.

This will help separate the processing of your yahoo mail from your
normal mail functional mail delivery.


Ken



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> Hello
> 
>         Smap is working perfectly all right and the mail is delivered to
> Internal and external sites and it has been working for last about 2
> months. Now the problem is that recently the mail to any
> username@yahoo.com is not being delivered. smapd hands over the mail to
> sendmail and ps shows:
> 
> mx2.mail.yahoo.com. : user open
> 
> and it stays that way for long time. In the maillog it shows:
> 
> stat=Deferred: Connection reset by mx2.mail.yahoo.com.
> OR
> timeout waiting for input from mx2.mail.yahoo.com. during client
> greeting
> 
> Now these deferred mails (all destined for yahoo.com) are being
> collected in the mailq and since sendmail runs only via smapd; I have to
> run sendmail -q from cron. But still the problem remains. Not being able
> to send mail to any user @yahoo.com. DNS is working all right and mail
> to all other sites can be sent without any problem.
> 
> Could anyone please tell me what I should do?
> 
> N.K.Narang

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hello all:
    now does fwtk support VPN?    how to config?

thanks.

wen


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wen wrote:
> 
> hello all:
>     now does fwtk support VPN?    how to config?
> 
> thanks.
> 
> wen

Just my 2 cents:

We looked into that here (admittedly more than 2 years ago!) and came to
a few conclusions:

(1) PPTP : uses a special IP protocol number, so filtering rules
    have to be set up at kernel level; much harder than configuring
    plug-gw! Moreover, we could not find an Open Source implementation
    supporting encryption.
(2) SSH : we use SSH (version 1) to tunnel through our firewall, with
    the Open Source client for Linux, and the Datafellows F-Secure
    proprietary client for WindowsNT (the latter not working very
well...);
    plug-gw on the firewall, additional authentication via the ISDN
phone
    number in the ISDN router, and the Open Source server on our
internal
    server, which is an SGI running IRIX.
    Drawbacks: FTP does not work over SSH (admittedly we use a rather
old
    release of SSH, maybe this changed?), nor AFAIK any UDP protocols.
    Although it is theoretically possible to use PPP-over-SSH as a VPN,
    many say that is prone to 'cascade failure', i.e. TCP packets being
    re-transmitted on *both* the real and the virtual link, causing
*more*
    transmission failures, causing more retransmission, etc... We did
not
    try so I don't *know*.

-- 
Michel Bardiaux

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Hi..

I have installen FWTK on BSDI and have configure the netperm-table as=
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What should I do next ???????
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>hello all:
>
>now I want to test fwtk performance to get maximal connection number that
fwtk can support. what is the maximal connection numbe that fwtk can
support?   how to test?
The first question can be answered with "it depends". It depends on what
os, hardware etc you are useing for the fwtk
host. It also depends on which of the gateways you are using and what else
is going on on the machine.

To test a specific implementation of fwtk you need to understand what you
will be running. IE will you be using the x-gw and
smapd and ftp-gw or what. Will you be logging everything or nothing? ...
See what I mean.


One of the best features of fwtk is that it is a sourcecode toolkit. It is
a crystal box implementation of a firewall.
You get to choose what you will use, how you will use it and if any piece
of it appears too slow you have the source and
can make changes to speed it up.
>
>thanks.
>
>wen
>
>
>
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> > > Wouldn't it be safest to place vpn directly on the firewall, as shown?
> > > Vpn could be placed on the router, but if the vpn is compromized, access
> > > may be possible to the whole internal net, right?
> >
> > Very true. I wouldn't recommend this at all.
> 
> I find it quite strange that the firewall administrator doesn't have direct
> control of the external router to implement initial network filtering (Increase
> security, reduce traffic hitting the firewall). e.g.
> 
> Ext network----Ext Router----firewall----dmz----Internal Router----.....
> 
> In the above case using an external router, this could be used as the VPN end
> point, as with have done over a number of technologies. A caveat however, the
> router vendors have been quite slow deploying fully IPSEC compliant solutions, and
> in some cases require a mix of part IPSEC + proprietary to make VPNs (This
> normally makes these solutions less friendly ;) )

I just wouldn't allow unencrypted traffic from the external router to be
outside the firewall. I personally like encrypting traffic as close to
the end point (or trusted network) that I can....

Plus, your security rules on your firewall are either going to be too
broad ("allow src router.ip dst any port any" if router is doing VPN
natting... eeek!) or too restrictive ("allow src router.ip dst
intranet.web port 80" for each service via router VPN).

Unless, of course, if your internal router supports VPN traffic and you
forward it from the outside through your firewall ("allow src any dst
internal.router protocol 50,51") which I don't recommend either...

> It really depends on the type of client connecting I guess, remote site or remote
> user. I like Keiths SmartGate for users (especially with SmartCards), external
> router based solution for sites. Horses for courses I guess,

I like SmartGate too  :-).

We have actually done a similiar config for a high security law
enforcement group. SmartPass for client-to-server and Gauntlet tunnels
between sites for server replication. They think it works great.

Anyway, I'll shut up now and stop changing the topic from the FWTK... 
:-)

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Tony Gale wrote:
> 
> Apply the enclosed patch.
> 
> (avenger, would you *please* add this to the web site).
> 
> -tony

Sorry about that... I've been busy with business travelling and
purchasing a house.

I'll have the FAQ updated (along with removing the mirror sites which
didn't apply the mirror.pl fix) tomorrow afternoon.

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> 
> I would like to turn of logging for specific traffic on our Gauntlet firewall
> 5.0, by default extensive logging is turned on, is there a way of turning
> logging off, let say for http traffic.

First, this list is for the FWTK, which != Gauntlet. The Gauntlet
mailing list instructions can be found at:
	http://www.securityfocus.com/templates/mlist.html?list=87

Second, to answer your question: No, you cannot do it in 5.0. However,
it is a new feature in Gauntlet 5.5.

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I have FWTK 2.1 on  BSDI .....  When i do FTP from command promt it works=
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Hi..

normal ftp clients work, but netscape Or explorer ftp's fail .........

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At 04:30 PM 4/7/00 +0500, }{ce||enT wrote:
>I have installen FWTK on BSDI and have configure the netperm-table as 
>required but dont know how to run it OR how i use FTP-GW ...
>
>What should I do next ???????
You either run the proxies in daemon mode when your firewall starts, or you 
add entries to your inetd.conf to invoke the ftp-gw when you connect to the 
firewall.
         -Rick


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At 03:46 PM 4/8/00 +0500, }{ce||enT wrote:
>I have FWTK 2.1 on  BSDI .....  When i do FTP from command promt it works 
>fine but with browsers  it just couldnt do ...
>What should I do to make it running with browsers ???????
This is covered in the FAQ. Please read it. <http://www.fwtk.org/>
(You need to configure your browser to use the http-gw on the same port 
that you're using as the HTTP proxy as your FTP proxy.)
         -Rick


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At 07:48 AM 04/08/00, }{ce||enT wrote:
>Hi..
>
>Is there any one running FTP-GW in passive mode (that support ftp with web 
>browsers ) ?????????
>
>Any one ??? please help me ???????


FTP through a browser is accomplished through the http-gw, not the ftp-gw 
as you'd expect.  Do you have http-gw installed, configured and 
working?  If so, then simply copy the setting (server and port) in your 
browser's proxy configuration to the ftp proxy entry. Actually, unless 
you've removed the support when you built the toolkit, the proxy settings 
for http, gopher, ftp and security (https) should all be the same in your 
browser's proxy config.  The socks entry is the only one you need not worry 
about.

Cheers!
Jon


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  Hi...

Actually what is happening ..I am runnig transparent proxy for http (=
 squid) on other machine ...Router sends all port 80 requests to this=
 machine even when i do FTP from browser ...router sends it to Squid=
 machine...The problem is here ???

Is there any way that i can tell my router to send http based ftp request=
 to my FWTK machine.
On the other hand if i do simple ftp i.e from command prompt then router=
 sends this port 21 request to this FWTK machine...


Any help ??????

Regards,
xcelent


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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Actually what is happening ..I am runnig transparent proxy for http ( 
squid) on other machine ...Router sends all port 80 requests to this machine 
even when i do FTP from browser ...router sends it to Squid machine...The 
problem is here ???</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Is there any way that i can tell my router to send http based ftp request 
to my FWTK machine.</DIV>
<DIV>On the other hand if i do simple ftp i.e from command prompt then router 
sends this port 21 request to this FWTK machine...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Any help ??????</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,</DIV>
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On 07-Apr-2000 Keith Young wrote:
> I'll have the FAQ updated (along with removing the mirror sites
> which
> didn't apply the mirror.pl fix) tomorrow afternoon.

Thanks Keith.

For patch 1.9 the error can also be Error 501

I'll try and get my other unpublished patch or two into an acceptable
state in the near future.

I personally prefer the following patch from Jean-Christophe Touvet
<jct@EdelWeb.fr> for the problem in 1.8:

*** hmain.c-orig        Sat Feb  7 00:32:16 1998
--- hmain.c     Wed Sep 23 17:13:42 1998
***************
*** 857,869 ****
                if(html_read(fd,(char *)&buf[x],1) != 1)
                        goto done;
  
!               /* get \r\n - read a char and throw it away */
!               if(buf[x] == '\r') {
                        if(html_read(fd,(char *)&buf[x],1) != 1)
                                goto done;
-                       buf[x] = '\0';
-                       ret = x;
-                       goto done;
                }
  
                if(buf[x] == '\n') {
--- 857,866 ----
                if(html_read(fd,(char *)&buf[x],1) != 1)
                        goto done;
  
!               /* eat all \r from the stream */
!               while(buf[x] == '\r') {
                        if(html_read(fd,(char *)&buf[x],1) != 1)
                                goto done;
                }
  
                if(buf[x] == '\n') {


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I've managed to patch my smap.c with the yao-smap.pch changes and
recompiled.  I modified netperm-table with what I thought were the 
neccesary additions (appended below) and it all seems to work - except 
that it is still wide open to relaying! 

I didn't add any compilation options so I'm using just the defaults.  
Is that wrong - should I include them? (But where do they go in 
Makefile.config?)  Have I missed the plot somewhere or am I just
being (more than normally) dumb here?

BTW am I correct in thinking that the patched smap should block 
relaying on its own, even if I haven't yet beefed up sendmail?

Thanks 

John
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Date sent:      	Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:24:37 +0100
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From:           	John Armstrong <john@lrf.leeds.ac.uk>
Subject:        	Re: smap in anti-relay mode

You know, I fought with this yesterday trying to get it to run after I 
compiled the patches.  Finally, I figured out that I never copied the 
new executeable to where it runs at /usr/local/etc . 

Could you be having the same problem?

Wes Szumera

> I've managed to patch my smap.c with the yao-smap.pch changes and
> recompiled.  I modified netperm-table with what I thought were the 
> neccesary additions (appended below) and it all seems to work - except 
> that it is still wide open to relaying! 
> 
> I didn't add any compilation options so I'm using just the defaults.  
> Is that wrong - should I include them? (But where do they go in 
> Makefile.config?)  Have I missed the plot somewhere or am I just
> being (more than normally) dumb here?
> 
> BTW am I correct in thinking that the patched smap should block 
> relaying on its own, even if I haven't yet beefed up sendmail?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> John
> ======================================================================
> # smap (email) rules:
> # -------------------
> #smap, smapd:   userid 8
> smap, smapd:    directory  /var/spool/smap
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> __________________________________________________________________________
>  John Armstrong                         Computer System Adminstrator
>                                         Health & Safety Officer
>  john@lrf.leeds.ac.uk
>  j.d.c.armstrong@leeds.ac.uk            LRF Centre at Leeds University
>                                         30 Hyde Terrace
>  0113 233 3912 (phone)                  Leeds LS2 9LN
>  0113 245 9806 (fax)
> 




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I know this sounds silly but is there anyway you could mail me the
ource for smap patched with the yao-smap patches? If that's out of
line how did you install the patches? Everytime I try the patch
installation fails.

Thnx
Frank


On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 02:38:07PM -0400, Wes Szumera wrote:
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> Date sent:      	Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:24:37 +0100
> To:             	fwtk-users@ex.tis.com
> From:           	John Armstrong <john@lrf.leeds.ac.uk>
> Subject:        	Re: smap in anti-relay mode
> 
> You know, I fought with this yesterday trying to get it to run after I 
> compiled the patches.  Finally, I figured out that I never copied the 
> new executeable to where it runs at /usr/local/etc . 
> 
> Could you be having the same problem?
> 
> Wes Szumera
> 
> > I've managed to patch my smap.c with the yao-smap.pch changes and
> > recompiled.  I modified netperm-table with what I thought were the 
> > neccesary additions (appended below) and it all seems to work - except 
> > that it is still wide open to relaying! 
> > 
> > I didn't add any compilation options so I'm using just the defaults.  
> > Is that wrong - should I include them? (But where do they go in 
> > Makefile.config?)  Have I missed the plot somewhere or am I just
> > being (more than normally) dumb here?
> > 
> > BTW am I correct in thinking that the patched smap should block 
> > relaying on its own, even if I haven't yet beefed up sendmail?
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> > John
> > ======================================================================
> > # smap (email) rules:
> > # -------------------
> > #smap, smapd:   userid 8
> > smap, smapd:    directory  /var/spool/smap
> > smapd:          executable /usr/local/etc/smapd
> > smapd:          sendmail   /usr/sbin/sendmail
> > smapd:          wakeup 60
> > smap:           postmaster <postmaster@lrf.leeds.ac.uk>
> > smap:           maxrecip 400
> > smap:           timeout 120
> > smap:           domains lrf.leeds.ac.uk *.lrf.leeds.ac.uk
> > smap:           hosts 192.168.2.9 192.168.2.2
> > smap:           check-from-address 1
> > smap:           check-user-too 1          
> > __________________________________________________________________________
> >  John Armstrong                         Computer System Adminstrator
> >                                         Health & Safety Officer
> >  john@lrf.leeds.ac.uk
> >  j.d.c.armstrong@leeds.ac.uk            LRF Centre at Leeds University
> >                                         30 Hyde Terrace
> >  0113 233 3912 (phone)                  Leeds LS2 9LN
> >  0113 245 9806 (fax)
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes Szumera                    
> 
> Plant Engineer           
> Eagle Trim Inc.  
> 0829 US 131 NW
> Kalkaska, MI  49646-0460
> 
> voice 231 258 4150 ext 3024
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Hi You all,

is it possible, to leave a network protected by a tis-fw using ssh?
In our company only a telnet-gw and a ftp-gw is installed. .-(
And on the website http://www.tis.com/research/software/ I also didn't
found anything about ssh.

Maybe one of You has a solution?

TiA
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Try adding the follwing directives to your net-perm file:

	
smap: relay-domain foo.com *.foo.com
smap: relay-domain foo1.com *.foo1.com

these examples allow the smap daemon to accept email for emails in the
foo.com domain, and allow users in that domain to relay.
same goes for foo2.
Just enter in the domains and hosts you wish to allow to relay, and wala
,, after a succesful setup you will see something like this in messages:
Apr 10 18:26:41 carmen smap[284]: relay denied: to=<test@microsoft.com>
from=<jon@jons.org> host=jons.org/63.202.4.50

Hope this helps.

Jon Christopherson
Unix Administrator
Broderbund Software
jon@broder.com

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, John Armstrong wrote:

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> 
> I've managed to patch my smap.c with the yao-smap.pch changes and
> recompiled.  I modified netperm-table with what I thought were the 
> neccesary additions (appended below) and it all seems to work - except 
> that it is still wide open to relaying! 
> 
> I didn't add any compilation options so I'm using just the defaults.  
> Is that wrong - should I include them? (But where do they go in 
> Makefile.config?)  Have I missed the plot somewhere or am I just
> being (more than normally) dumb here?
> 
> BTW am I correct in thinking that the patched smap should block 
> relaying on its own, even if I haven't yet beefed up sendmail?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> John
> ======================================================================
> # smap (email) rules:
> # -------------------
> #smap, smapd:   userid 8
> smap, smapd:    directory  /var/spool/smap
> smapd:          executable /usr/local/etc/smapd
> smapd:          sendmail   /usr/sbin/sendmail
> smapd:          wakeup 60
> smap:           postmaster <postmaster@lrf.leeds.ac.uk>
> smap:           maxrecip 400
> smap:           timeout 120
> smap:           domains lrf.leeds.ac.uk *.lrf.leeds.ac.uk
> smap:           hosts 192.168.2.9 192.168.2.2
> smap:           check-from-address 1
> smap:           check-user-too 1          
> __________________________________________________________________________
>  John Armstrong                         Computer System Adminstrator
>                                         Health & Safety Officer
>  john@lrf.leeds.ac.uk
>  j.d.c.armstrong@leeds.ac.uk            LRF Centre at Leeds University
>                                         30 Hyde Terrace
>  0113 233 3912 (phone)                  Leeds LS2 9LN
>  0113 245 9806 (fax)
> 
> 
> 


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Try adding the follwing directives to your net-perm file:

        
smap: relay-domain foo.com *.foo.com
smap: relay-domain foo1.com *.foo1.com

these examples allow the smap daemon to accept email for emails in the
foo.com domain, and allow users in that domain to relay.
same goes for foo2.
Just enter in the domains and hosts you wish to allow to relay, and wala
,, after a succesful setup you will see something like this in messages:
Apr 10 18:26:41 carmen smap[284]: relay denied: to=<test@microsoft.com>
from=<jon@jons.org> host=jons.org/63.202.4.50

Hope this helps.

Jon Christopherson
Unix Administrator
Broderbund Software
jon@broder.com


On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, John Armstrong wrote:

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> 
> I've managed to patch my smap.c with the yao-smap.pch changes and
> recompiled.  I modified netperm-table with what I thought were the 
> neccesary additions (appended below) and it all seems to work - except 
> that it is still wide open to relaying! 
> 
> I didn't add any compilation options so I'm using just the defaults.  
> Is that wrong - should I include them? (But where do they go in 
> Makefile.config?)  Have I missed the plot somewhere or am I just
> being (more than normally) dumb here?
> 
> BTW am I correct in thinking that the patched smap should block 
> relaying on its own, even if I haven't yet beefed up sendmail?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> John
> ======================================================================
> # smap (email) rules:
> # -------------------
> #smap, smapd:   userid 8
> smap, smapd:    directory  /var/spool/smap
> smapd:          executable /usr/local/etc/smapd
> smapd:          sendmail   /usr/sbin/sendmail
> smapd:          wakeup 60
> smap:           postmaster <postmaster@lrf.leeds.ac.uk>
> smap:           maxrecip 400
> smap:           timeout 120
> smap:           domains lrf.leeds.ac.uk *.lrf.leeds.ac.uk
> smap:           hosts 192.168.2.9 192.168.2.2
> smap:           check-from-address 1
> smap:           check-user-too 1          
> __________________________________________________________________________
>  John Armstrong                         Computer System Adminstrator
>                                         Health & Safety Officer
>  john@lrf.leeds.ac.uk
>  j.d.c.armstrong@leeds.ac.uk            LRF Centre at Leeds University
>                                         30 Hyde Terrace
>  0113 233 3912 (phone)                  Leeds LS2 9LN
>  0113 245 9806 (fax)
> 
> 
> 


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hello all:
 I am reading ftp-gw source code.now I have some problems.please help me.

when I "FTP xx.xx.xx.xx" in client machine,the prompt is "User (xx.xx.xx.xx none):".
 what function does the FWTK   call to show the prompt? I think the FWTK call cmd_user().but I don't find this prompt.


in netperm-table file I config -authall option for ftp-gw,I know when ftp-gw run,ftp-gw first call usercmd() function,then usercmd() call cmd_user() funtion,then cmd_user() call authorize() function,then authorize() call cmd_response() function. authorize() function get authname,cmd_response return response auth result.but which function shows "PASSWORD:" prompt?


now I confuse   the main loop of ftp-gw,plese analyze in detail.

thanks.


wen


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hello all:
    in ftp-gw.c,there is struct FtpOp ops[]= {
"port",OP_CONN,cmd_port,
 "user",OP_AOK|OP_WCON,cmd_user,
 "retr",OP_CONN|OP_XTND,0,
 "stor",OP_CONN|OP_XTND,0,
 "pass",OP_AOK|OP_WCON,cmd_response,
 "cwd",OP_CONN,0,
 "pwd",OP_CONN,0,
       
     ;
     ;
     ;   
     ;
   0,              0,                              0
};

the left line(eg:port,pass etc) is ftp-gw command or ftp-gw configure option for netperm-table?
if these is ftp-gw command,why  not to run after "ftp>" prompt?


thanks.


wen


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hello all:
    I don't understand  OP_WCON  and OP_XTND flag. what meaning are these?
only "user" and "pass" command held this flag.  why?



thanks.


wen


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Michael Thies wrote:
> 
> 
> is it possible, to leave a network protected by a tis-fw using ssh?
> In our company only a telnet-gw and a ftp-gw is installed. .-(
> And on the website http://www.tis.com/research/software/ I also didn't
> found anything about ssh.
> 
> Maybe one of You has a solution?
>

* INCOMING SSH:

We simply pass SSH through the FW with plug-gw, e.g.:
[/etc/services]
ssh             22/tcp                          # SSH Remote Login
Protocol
[/etc/inetd.conf]
ssh             stream  tcp     nowait  root   
/usr/local/fwtk/etc/netacl ssh
[/usr/local/fwtk/etc/netperm-table]
netacl-ssh: permit-hosts * -exec /usr/local/fwtk/etc/plug-gw ssh
plug-gw: port ssh * -plug-to aa.bb.cc.1 -port
22                                                                              
(aa.bb.cc.1 is the IP address of the SSHD server on the internal net)

You also have to allow SSH through whatever filtering system is used on
the
machine at the DMZ/intranet boundary, but that's outside FWTK.

<pedantic>
Of course, since you tunnel *any* SSH in, your SSH setup better be
'military'
grade: large keys, and strict rules for public key management: long
passphrase,
public keys have to be carried on floppy and personnally handed to the
system
manager, etc... Basically, outside hosts become part of the internal
net, and
security policies for internal hosts must be applied to them. Even
stronger policies,
actually, since the outside hosts might *not* be protected by an FW.
</pedantic>

Something still worries me in that setup: what are the risks of DoS
attacks on the
internal net? Ideas anybody?

* OUTGOING SSH

We have created an extra service on the FW for every destination
(including the
DMZ machines). The netperm-table rules read like:

netacl-ssh-XX: permit-hosts aa.bb.cc.* -exec /usr/local/fwtk/etc/plug-gw
ssh-XX
plug-gw: port ssh-XX aa.bb.cc.129 -privport -plug-to XX.XX.XX.XX -port
PPPP

(aa.bb.cc is our assigned Class-C, 129 is the IP address of the
Intranet/DMZ boundary
NIC)

All this is IMHO, of course. Critiques welcome!

Greetings.                                    
-- 
Michel Bardiaux

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I have the smap.c and yao.pdch files in the same dir

using patch 2.5.4

I do:

smap# patch smap.c yao-smap.pch
patching file smap.c
Hunk #14 FAILED at 1149.
1 out of 40 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file smap.c.rej

any ideas??

thanks

William Jackson

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At 10:39 AM 4/11/00 +0800, wen wrote:
>when I "FTP xx.xx.xx.xx" in client machine,the prompt is "User 
>(xx.xx.xx.xx none):".
>  what function does the FWTK   call to show the prompt? I think the FWTK 
> call cmd_user().but I don't find this prompt.

That prompt is being issued by your ftp server (the site you're connecting 
to) and the ftp-gw is echoing it.
         -Rick


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From: Rick Murphy <rmurphy@itm-inst.com>
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At 10:57 AM 4/11/00 +0800, wen wrote:
>     in ftp-gw.c,there is struct FtpOp ops[]= {

>"port",OP_CONN,cmd_port,
>
>the left line(eg:port,pass etc) is ftp-gw command or ftp-gw configure 
>option for netperm-table?
>if these is ftp-gw command,why  not to run after "ftp>" prompt?
They're FTP commands - commands that are part of the FTP protocol. They're 
not the same as the user commands. For example, with normal ftp if you give 
the 'GET a.a' command, the ftp user agent sends RETR then PORT. (I may be 
misremembering the order.)
The options modify the requirements for a command. You've got to have a 
connection to an FTP server to use RETR; USER doesn't require a connection 
(OP_WCONN). Commands subject to extended permissions (time of day, etc.) 
have OP_XTND set.
         -Rick


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sorry I fixed the last problem of patching the file

as I had to use a fresh copy of smap.c

but the problem at the moment is that when it tries to link the exe

I get the following:

smap# make
cc -I.. -g -DLINUX   -c smap.c -o smap.o
cc -I.. -g -DLINUX   -c arpadate.c -o arpadate.o
cc -g -static -o smap smap.o arpadate.o ../libfwall.a
smap.o: In function `from_address_ok':
/usr/src/fwtk/fwtk/smap/smap.c:2015: undefined reference to `res_query'
/usr/src/fwtk/fwtk/smap/smap.c:2015: undefined reference to `res_query'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [smap] Error 1
www1:/usr/src/fwtk/fwtk/smap#

I have used a fresh install of the fwtk2.1 to get this far and cannot find
the functions res_query in any of the files?


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nuqneH,

wen <wen@hisense.qd.sd.cn> said :

> hello all:
>  I am reading ftp-gw source code.now I have some problems.please help me.
> 
> when I "FTP xx.xx.xx.xx" in client machine,the prompt is "User (xx.xx.xx.xx none):".
>  what function does the FWTK   call to show the prompt? I think the FWTK call cmd_user().but I don't find this prompt.

None. This prompt is shown by ftp command. See the rfc for ftp protocol.
 
> in netperm-table file I config -authall option for ftp-gw,I know when ftp-gw run,ftp-gw first call usercmd() function,then usercmd() call cmd_user() funtion,then cmd_user() call authorize() function,then authorize() call cmd_response() function. authorize() function get authname,cmd_response return response auth result.but which function shows "PASSWORD:" prompt?
> 
> 
> now I confuse   the main loop of ftp-gw,plese analyze in detail.

cmd_authorize, see the "331" message being formed. 

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nuqneH,

OP_WCON means there is no internal processing for this command, it is
just being sent to server "as is".
OP_XTND means the command is checked by authsrv for extended
permission information if you enable -extnd flag.

wen <wen@hisense.qd.sd.cn> said :

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> 
> hello all:
>     I don't understand  OP_WCON  and OP_XTND flag. what meaning are these?
> only "user" and "pass" command held this flag.  why?


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Michael Thies <thies@argh.org> said :


> is it possible, to leave a network protected by a tis-fw using ssh?
> In our company only a telnet-gw and a ftp-gw is installed. .-(
> And on the website http://www.tis.com/research/software/ I also didn't
> found anything about ssh.
> 
> Maybe one of You has a solution?


There are several ones. I am thinking about writing new ssh-gw (my old
one is damn ugly hack) but i don't have time for it now :(

BTW fwtk/gauntlet comparison from the page above is long out of date in
both parts..
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FTP Error

Could not login to FTP server

 This FTP server requires the ability to perform reverse DNS lookups on all
addresses connecting to it.  We cannot perform this on the current
connection.


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ark@eltex.ru wrote:
> 
> nuqneH,
> 
> Michael Thies <thies@argh.org> said :
> 
> > is it possible, to leave a network protected by a tis-fw using ssh?
> > In our company only a telnet-gw and a ftp-gw is installed. .-(
> > And on the website http://www.tis.com/research/software/ I also didn't
> > found anything about ssh.
> >
> > Maybe one of You has a solution?
> 
> There are several ones. I am thinking about writing new ssh-gw (my old
> one is damn ugly hack) but i don't have time for it now :(
> 
> BTW fwtk/gauntlet comparison from the page above is long out of date in
> both parts..
> 
As you can see from my own reply to the OPs query, we use SSH a lot, so
I'm
quite interested. So lotsa questions...

- I thought an ssh-gw was in principle impossible since the session is
supposed
to be encrypted so totally opaque. 

- What are the advantages of an ssh-gw over plain good old
plug-gw?

- Can you give me an URL for the code, or mail it to me?

- Any critiques on my previous reply to the OP? 

TIA.
-- 
Michel Bardiaux
UsrConsult S.P.R.L.  Rue Margot, 37  B-1457 Nil St Vincent
Tel : +32 10 65.44.15  Fax : +32 10 65.44.10

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nuqneH,

Nope ;) Server just gives 220 greeting message, the username prompt is
generated by ftp client.

Rick Murphy <rmurphy@itm-inst.com> said :
 
> At 10:39 AM 4/11/00 +0800, wen wrote:
> >when I "FTP xx.xx.xx.xx" in client machine,the prompt is "User 
> >(xx.xx.xx.xx none):".
> >  what function does the FWTK   call to show the prompt? I think the FWTK 
> > call cmd_user().but I don't find this prompt.
> 
> That prompt is being issued by your ftp server (the site you're connecting 
> to) and the ftp-gw is echoing it.


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If I remember correctly, I believe the line should be:
 smap: relay-domain domain.com

NKN

John Armstrong wrote:

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> I've managed to patch my smap.c with the yao-smap.pch changes and
> recompiled.  I modified netperm-table with what I thought were the
> neccesary additions (appended below) and it all seems to work - except
> that it is still wide open to relaying!
>
> I didn't add any compilation options so I'm using just the defaults.
> Is that wrong - should I include them? (But where do they go in
> Makefile.config?)  Have I missed the plot somewhere or am I just
> being (more than normally) dumb here?
>
> BTW am I correct in thinking that the patched smap should block
> relaying on its own, even if I haven't yet beefed up sendmail?
>
> Thanks
>
> John
> ======================================================================
> # smap (email) rules:
> # -------------------
> #smap, smapd:   userid 8
> smap, smapd:    directory  /var/spool/smap
> smapd:          executable /usr/local/etc/smapd
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> __________________________________________________________________________
>  John Armstrong                         Computer System Adminstrator
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wen <wen@hisense.qd.sd.cn> said :

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> 
> hello all:
>     in ftp-gw.c,there is struct FtpOp ops[]= {
> "port",OP_CONN,cmd_port,
>  "user",OP_AOK|OP_WCON,cmd_user,
>  "retr",OP_CONN|OP_XTND,0,
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> 
> the left line(eg:port,pass etc) is ftp-gw command or ftp-gw configure option for netperm-table?

ftp-gw command.

> if these is ftp-gw command,why  not to run after "ftp>" prompt?

? it is the command ftp client sends to a server or ftp-gw. 

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Michel Bardiaux <mbardiaux@usrconsult.be> said :

> > Michael Thies <thies@argh.org> said :
> > 
> > > is it possible, to leave a network protected by a tis-fw using ssh?
> > > In our company only a telnet-gw and a ftp-gw is installed. .-(
> > > And on the website http://www.tis.com/research/software/ I also didn't
> > > found anything about ssh.
> > >
> > > Maybe one of You has a solution?
> > 
> > There are several ones. I am thinking about writing new ssh-gw (my old
> > one is damn ugly hack) but i don't have time for it now :(
> > 
> > BTW fwtk/gauntlet comparison from the page above is long out of date in
> > both parts..
> > 
> As you can see from my own reply to the OPs query, we use SSH a lot, so
> I'm
> quite interested. So lotsa questions...
> 
> - I thought an ssh-gw was in principle impossible since the session is
> supposed
> to be encrypted so totally opaque. 

So firewall has to know how to decrypt both ends and perform some kind of
key spoofing. Some people consider that as bad idea, but it is useful
sometimes.
 
> - What are the advantages of an ssh-gw over plain good old
> plug-gw?

More flexibility and ease of use. plug-gw has fixed end-to-end
configuration, that means you can ssh to just one server outside and to
just one server inside or play with port numbers.
 
> - Can you give me an URL for the code, or mail it to me?

The hack i was talking about was created to accept incoming ssh connections
and pass them via telnet to a trusted LAN.

There was a thing that looked more like ssh proxy, posted here on the list.


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At 08:55 AM 4/9/00 +0800, wen wrote:
>Donald J Smith:
>	thanks for your answer.
>	connection that I said is : when some people use IE to browser internet
at the same time,maybe one opens two or more IE widow,I think a IE window
is a internet connection.if I take ftp or smtp connection into account
consider.  how many connection can the FWTK support? 
>	now my OS is redhat6.1.hardware is :PII400,64M RAM.how to test to get
maxize connection number? please in detail.
try 
top -p pid_of_http_gw
this will moniter the http_gw and it's children.
Then run 5 - 10  (or 100;-) IE's and see how of a load each process adds.
I have run more than 100 http gets thru a much weaker box. It had the same
amount of memory but
only a P5-166MHZ. The users weren't bogged down until we saturated the T1
NOT THE FIREWALL.
Filling the T1 required only about 10 users all trying to get a 100MB
software upgrade at the same time (more or less).

>
>	thanks.
>
>
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-lres [resolver library]

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>  This FTP server requires the ability to perform reverse DNS lookups on all
> addresses connecting to it.  We cannot perform this on the current
> connection.

TIS doesn't allow logins to the FTP server from IP addresses that
it cannot look up. You're going to have to use a connection from
an IP address that can be resolved to a hostname via DNS in order
to download FWTK. If you have a Systems Administrator, try asking
him/her about it.

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Hi,

  I have successfully compiled authsrv on linux. But when I
  tried to use authsrv by typing "authsrv" at the prompt, it
  spits out this error message:

  Database not configured

  What did I do wrong ?

  Thanks a lot




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Hi everyopne,

Can you tell me if i need to recompile the toolkit if i change the ip 
adress of the in side of my FW (
eth1)

I'm guessing yes, or maybe i could just change some switches. I tried it 
and the http-gw that worked fine with the old ip stoped working with the 
new ip. Naturally i took care of chaging the settings in netperm-table.

AtDhVaAnNkCsE

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On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 11:13:13AM +0530, Naresh Narang wrote:
>     Where from can I get yao patch for smap to stop spam?
> 
> Thanks
> N. K. narang

I hope that you have already been told to go to
	<URL: http://www.fwtk.org>.

I should make it clear that I gathered together existing patches,
debugged them, and commented them.  I did not do all of the massive
work in those patches!  But at least the comments now tell you what
they're for and how to use them.  ;-)

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Jean-Martin Guay wrote:
> 
> Hi everyopne,
> 
> Can you tell me if i need to recompile the toolkit if i change the ip
> adress of the in side of my FW (
> eth1)

Nope. Since FWTK is just a simple application, you can use any IP
address that you want.

Just make sure that you change your firewall rules, DNS, and routing.

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	Hi, how I configureted my x-gw or where is
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Hello, I'm thinking about integrate fwtk with ipsec.But from the document I 
get ,the ipsec (FreeS/WAN) must set the pocket foward on.And the ipsec uses
UDP 500 ,ESP 50,AH 51 to communicate.If  I set pocket foward on,would this
compromise the security of fwtk ? Any help will be appreciated.

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You shouldn't run the FTP daemon and the FTP gateway on the same
machine.  It doesn't make sense, anyway.  How can the daemon be
"behind" the gateway if it's on the same machine?  Even if you change
ports, which would allow this configuration, intruders can access those
ports.  So you switch to TCP wrappers, and they spoof an address, and
...  Better to have your services truly behind the gateway on a
separate machine than out on the Internet.

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>>>>> "Joseph" == Joseph S D Yao <jsdy@cospo.osis.gov> writes:

Joseph> You shouldn't run the FTP daemon and the FTP gateway on the same
Joseph> machine.  It doesn't make sense, anyway.  How can the daemon be
Joseph> "behind" the gateway if it's on the same machine?  Even if you change
Joseph> ports, which would allow this configuration, intruders can access those
Joseph> ports.  So you switch to TCP wrappers, and they spoof an address, and
Joseph> ...  Better to have your services truly behind the gateway on a
Joseph> separate machine than out on the Internet.

While I agree that having it on a separate machine is "better" in some
environments, you _can_ have them on the same box. A simple example:

Server has 1 physical interface:

hme0: 10.1.1.1

ftpd is configured to only listen on the loopback interface (127.0.0.1).

ftp-gw is configured to only listen on 10.1.1.1:21, and hand off all connections to
127.0.0.1:21.

Th box is running a packet filter to be extra sure that nobody off the box
can talk to 127.0.0.1.

You now have your FTP server protected by ftp-gw. This is a good thing, even
for your internal FTP servers.

Hmmm... connection hand-off is in the toolkit ftp-gw, isn't it? I've been
staring at Gauntlet source so much lately, I forget. If not, it's trivial to
add.

If you also need to do proxying to other machines on the same box, the
easiest way is to have a second ftp-gw on a virtual address.

I'm not sure how the toolkit transparancy patches work - it should be a
trivial source modification to do handoff for a local dest IP, and normal
proxying for everything else, if such functionality doesn't already exist.

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On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 06:46:26PM -0400, carson@tla.org wrote:
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> While I agree that having it on a separate machine is "better" in some
> environments, you _can_ have them on the same box. A simple example:

Of course, true.  Which is why I went back and changed "can't" [written
in righteous fervor but misinterpretable] to "shouldn't" [clearly also
misinterpretable].  ;-)

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Hi...

I have configured FWTK's FTP-gw and works fine with dos prompt but when i=
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Normally when i DO ftp From other machine whose gateway is different , it=
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Can any one tell me what should i do ???

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What browser are you using?  Usually, proxy server doesn’t work well with
active ftp connection.  You have to tell the browser to use passive mode on
all ftp connection.  On IE 5, go to Internet Options and click Advanced tab.
Uncheck Enable folder view for FTP sites and click OK to save it.  Restart
IE 5 and that should fix it.  Other browsers, you have to figure it
yourself, sorry.

Hope this will help.

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Hi...

I have configured FWTK's FTP-gw and works fine with dos prompt but when i do
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Normally when i DO ftp From other machine whose gateway is different , it
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On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 01:49:24PM +0500, }{ce||enT wrote:
> Hi...
> 
> I have configured FWTK's FTP-gw and works fine with dos prompt but when i do FTP from web browser it says U dont have permission to access this site. 
> 
> Normally when i DO ftp From other machine whose gateway is different , it works fine ...
> 
> Can any one tell me what should i do ???
> 
> xcelent

FTP from a Web browser does NOT use ftp-gw.  It uses http-gw.  Make
sure that you are running http-gw on port 80 on your bastion host.
Configure your browser to use your bastion host on port 80 for HTTP,
HTTPS ["Security"], FTP, and also Gopher.

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Hi,

I'm trying to install fwtk on linux Kernel 2.0.36. When I do 'make' I 
receive the following erro msg.
--------
cc -g -o x-gw x-gw.o ulib.a ../libfwall.a  -L/usr/X11/lib -lXaw -lXmu
-lXt -lXex t -lX11 -lc ld: cannot open -lXaw: No such file or
directory make[1]: *** [x-gw] Error 1
--------

any help/comments will be welcome.

tia
Att,

________________________________________________________________
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Ronaldo,

Looks like it can't find the X libraries.  If you don't plan on running
x-gw, you can remove it from the make file.

ted keller


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> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to install fwtk on linux Kernel 2.0.36. When I do 'make' I 
> receive the following erro msg.
> --------
> cc -g -o x-gw x-gw.o ulib.a ../libfwall.a  -L/usr/X11/lib -lXaw -lXmu
> -lXt -lXex t -lX11 -lc ld: cannot open -lXaw: No such file or
> directory make[1]: *** [x-gw] Error 1
> --------
> 
> any help/comments will be welcome.
> 
> tia
> Att,
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> ________________________________________________________________
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I am running a RedHat Linux 6.1 server and get the following error upon
compile of fwtk:-
 
Makefile: 16: *** missing separator. Stop.
 
Does anyone know what this means?
 
It would be great if there was a configure script which took care of all the
system dependant configurations with in the Makefile and others configs. I
found a lot of this stuff very confusing as I'm not a programmer and don't
have the resources or time to learn about it.
I just want to install fwtk. Can anyone help?
 
Peter Barganski 
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Nuance Global Traders Australia 
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At 10:09 AM 4/17/00 +1000, Barganski Peter wrote:
>Makefile: 16: *** missing separator. Stop.
>
>Does anyone know what this means?

You probably ran fixmake; that probably means you either didn't read the 
README, or you don't know that Linux is not BSD.  Use 'fixmake unfix' to 
undo the damage.

Yes, FWTK requires a knowledgeable UNIX system administrator to install 
(see the README) because by itself it's not enough to be a complete 
firewall. You can too easily misconfigure things if you don't understand 
what protections FWTK provides and what you're expected to provide.
         -Rick


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Thanks for the tip Rick.

Firewalling is not new to me though and nor is UNIX administration, however,
compiling code and Makfile configs, is. I beleive It shouldn't be so time
consuming to do all of this. I'm a Systems Administrator not a Programming
Guru. As a Sys Admin, I'm a serious user of all sorts of systems.

Currently we're using Check Point Firewall-1 and we wanted to evaluated what
the Open Source community has to offer in this area.

If its too hard just to install it, it will never get as wide a distribution
as it might deserve.
Anyway, that's just my optnion!
Regards,

Peter Barganski 
Systems Engineer/Consultant 
Nuance Global Traders Australia 


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At 10:09 AM 4/17/00 +1000, Barganski Peter wrote:
>Makefile: 16: *** missing separator. Stop.
>
>Does anyone know what this means?

You probably ran fixmake; that probably means you either didn't read the 
README, or you don't know that Linux is not BSD.  Use 'fixmake unfix' to 
undo the damage.

Yes, FWTK requires a knowledgeable UNIX system administrator to install 
(see the README) because by itself it's not enough to be a complete 
firewall. You can too easily misconfigure things if you don't understand 
what protections FWTK provides and what you're expected to provide.
         -Rick

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At 12:31 PM 4/17/00 +1000, Barganski Peter wrote:
>Thanks for the tip Rick.
>
>Firewalling is not new to me though and nor is UNIX administration, however,
>compiling code and Makfile configs, is. I beleive It shouldn't be so time
>consuming to do all of this. I'm a Systems Administrator not a Programming
>Guru. As a Sys Admin, I'm a serious user of all sorts of systems.

FWTK isn't all that hard to get compiled - the major problem is the two 
makefile formats (BSD and everyone else); the fixmake script fixes it for 
that one platform but has the side effect of breaking it everywhere else so 
you're just hitting one of the really frequently asked questions. (See the 
FAQ at <http://www.fwtk.org> for lots of tips).

>Currently we're using Check Point Firewall-1 and we wanted to evaluated what
>the Open Source community has to offer in this area.

I understand you looking elsewhere given the known FTP security holes in 
FW-1. I'm about to suggest installing smap to replace the Firewall-1 
security server at one site for SMTP - the Checkpoint SMTP server isn't 
usable (there's mail it'll never deliver; it can't protect you from being a 
Spam relay.)

>If its too hard just to install it, it will never get as wide a distribution
>as it might deserve.
>Anyway, that's just my optnion!

Hopefully it's not so hard - let us know what kind of system you're 
building on, make sure you get the right format makefiles, and we'll be 
happy to help
         -Rick


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hello all:
    how to test fwtk? 
   please everyone give your advice.

thanks.




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Hi,

I have some problems setting up a news plug-gw on my firewall. I¥m quite
sure that my configuration files are ok. Anyway, here is an excerpt of my
inetd.conf and netperm-table:

inetd.conf:

nntp	stream	tcp	nowait	root	/usr/local/etc/plug-gw	plug-gw	nntp


netperm-table:

plug-gw:	timeout	1200
plug-gw:	port nntp	* -plug-to news.austria.eu.net -port nntp

Trying to connect to the news port, plug-gw reports a "deny host" message in
syslog.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks,

Friedrich Neurauter

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>Firewalling is not new to me though and nor is UNIX administration,
however,
>compiling code and Makfile configs, is. I beleive It shouldn't be so time
>consuming to do all of this. I'm a Systems Administrator not a Programming
>Guru. As a Sys Admin, I'm a serious user of all sorts of systems.

One option is to return it and get your money back <G>.

But seriously, the price of admission with FWTK is doing the research.  You
don't
use FWTK because its "free"; you use it because you get the source code.

Finally, FWTK is not "open source" in the GNU sense.  It has a very
restrictive
license.


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Rick Murphy wrote:
 
> I understand you looking elsewhere given the known FTP security holes in
> FW-1. I'm about to suggest installing smap to replace the Firewall-1
> security server at one site for SMTP - the Checkpoint SMTP server isn't
> usable (there's mail it'll never deliver; it can't protect you from being a
> Spam relay.)

Not only that, but when I played with FW-1, it wouldn't even use lower
preference MX records... it would just keep sending to the first...
yeech....

Anyway, I don't know if you've tried it, but smap works great on FW-1
(and so does tn-gw and ftp-gw to replace their other security
"proxies").

-- 
--Keith Young
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-kyoung@v-one.com

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At 9:01 AM -0400 17/04/00, Tom Krotchko wrote:
>Finally, FWTK is not "open source" in the GNU sense.  It has a very
>restrictive
>license.


Speaking off which, who is entitled to use FWTK?

my question is :

can i use it not for profit in my organisation,

or

can i use it in my not-for-profit-organisation?

the license (in my sense) is not clear on this point.

Chris


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I like FW-1 better when I'm protecting web servers with NAT.  FW-1
has been doing this longer, and the setup is easier.

On the other hand, Gauntlet/FWTK works better in situations where
you want an obvious proxy.  SMAP/sendmail works very well and is
highly configurable.

Just my opinion.

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Rick Murphy wrote:

> I understand you looking elsewhere given the known FTP security holes in
> FW-1. I'm about to suggest installing smap to replace the Firewall-1
> security server at one site for SMTP - the Checkpoint SMTP server isn't
> usable (there's mail it'll never deliver; it can't protect you from being
a
> Spam relay.)

Not only that, but when I played with FW-1, it wouldn't even use lower
preference MX records... it would just keep sending to the first...
yeech....

Anyway, I don't know if you've tried it, but smap works great on FW-1
(and so does tn-gw and ftp-gw to replace their other security
"proxies").

--
--Keith Young
-Director of Customer Care/Support, V-ONE Corp.
-kyoung@v-one.com


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Christian Raymond wrote:
> >Finally, FWTK is not "open source" in the GNU sense.  It has a very
> >restrictive
> >license.
> 
> Speaking off which, who is entitled to use FWTK?
> 
> my question is :
> can i use it not for profit in my organisation,

Yes.

> can i use it in my not-for-profit-organisation?

Yes.

> the license (in my sense) is not clear on this point.

Basically, the 2 major restrictions that I know of are:
	1) You cannot redistribute the software, either via CD-ROM or a web
site.
	2) You cannot specifically sell "FWTK support", "FWTK installation", or
"FWTK server software". You can, however, install the software as part
of a network support contract.

At least, those were the things that I was told by John Kelley @ NAI.

Of course, I am not legal counsel so you should seek better advice if
you are not sure...   :-)

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Todd_Joseph@groove.net wrote:
> 
> Ever used Smap/Smapd on NT4?  Please be kind.  I need to run a mail gateway
> on NT... :-(

Then you probably won't be using the FWTK then...

Look at Gauntlet 5.5 NT. It has what you are looking for.

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Ever used Smap/Smapd on NT4?  Please be kind.  I need to run a mail gateway
on NT... :-(

Todd




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Rick Murphy wrote:

> I understand you looking elsewhere given the known FTP security holes in
> FW-1. I'm about to suggest installing smap to replace the Firewall-1
> security server at one site for SMTP - the Checkpoint SMTP server isn't
> usable (there's mail it'll never deliver; it can't protect you from being
a
> Spam relay.)

Not only that, but when I played with FW-1, it wouldn't even use lower
preference MX records... it would just keep sending to the first...
yeech....

Anyway, I don't know if you've tried it, but smap works great on FW-1
(and so does tn-gw and ftp-gw to replace their other security
"proxies").

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On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 12:31:56PM +1000, Barganski Peter wrote:
...
> Currently we're using Check Point Firewall-1 and we wanted to evaluated what
> the Open Source community has to offer in this area.

Then go to <URL: http://www.freshmeat.net/> and look for more recent
"firewall" code there.

Just be aware that not everything labelled a "firewall" is.  FWTK is
one of the first.  There is something recent called T.REX, but I haven't
had time to evaluate it yet - Rick has, and if I understood correctly
thinks that it is about equivalent to an earlier version of FWTK.  [I
know I have oversimplified, Rick.]

Be wary of things labeled firewall that are mere packet filters.  They
have their place, but you have to evaluate your security need.  Then
again, you're using Firewall-1, so you may be willing to accept those.

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Is there any facility to add filters to smap and smapd?  With email viruses
being as popular as they are seems like some type of filters to use with smap
and smapd would be helpful in fending them off.

 ---------------------------------
David Hamm
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voice: 404-870-6663
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David,

I have implemented filters looking at the message header contents.  It
does not yet look at the content - but could be made to do so very easily.
I use this as a way of getting rid of a lot of spam messages - not doing
virus type checking.  Suspect this would be done better on an internal
mail system with one of the commercial virus scan products.

Your welcome to what I've done if it is of interest.

Key things ....

Checks on:
>From Address
To: address
Subject Line
Header contents.

ted keller


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> Is there any facility to add filters to smap and smapd?  With email viruses
> being as popular as they are seems like some type of filters to use with smap
> and smapd would be helpful in fending them off.
> 
>  ---------------------------------
> David Hamm
> Systems Analyst
> Imaging Technologies Services Inc.
> email: dhamm@itrepro.com
> voice: 404-870-6663
> ---------------------------------
> 


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At 11:36 AM 4/18/00 -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
>Just be aware that not everything labelled a "firewall" is.  FWTK is
>one of the first.  There is something recent called T.REX, but I haven't
>had time to evaluate it yet - Rick has, and if I understood correctly
>thinks that it is about equivalent to an earlier version of FWTK.  [I
>know I have oversimplified, Rick.]
T.Rex uses smap/smapd, ftp-gw, and tn-gw from Firewall Toolkit 1.3 or so. 
They've been mildly hacked to change the way they're managed. It also uses 
squid as an http proxy.
         -Rick


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> Subject: Re: FWTK To Hard to Compile if your not a Programmer!!
> 
[snip]
> T.Rex uses smap/smapd, ftp-gw, and tn-gw from Firewall Toolkit 1.3 or so. 
> They've been mildly hacked to change the way they're managed. It also uses 
> squid as an http proxy.

Apache, actually.  Or at least 1.0 did.  (The config files are in
/etc/apache.  The build directory is "apache".  It walks and quacks
like Apache.  I think it's Apache :-).)  I don't see anything in the
1.0.1 readme to indicate they've changed that.


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Jim
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Oh. Really. What does NAI think about it?

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> At 11:36 AM 4/18/00 -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
> >Just be aware that not everything labelled a "firewall" is.  FWTK is
> >one of the first.  There is something recent called T.REX, but I haven't
> >had time to evaluate it yet - Rick has, and if I understood correctly
> >thinks that it is about equivalent to an earlier version of FWTK.  [I
> >know I have oversimplified, Rick.]
> T.Rex uses smap/smapd, ftp-gw, and tn-gw from Firewall Toolkit 1.3 or so. 
> They've been mildly hacked to change the way they're managed. It also uses 
> squid as an http proxy.
 

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On 19-Apr-00 ark@eltex.ru wrote:
> Oh. Really. What does NAI think about it?

Their lawyers are about to "have a word" with them (Freemont Avenue Software)
about it. Peter Churchyard from NAI told me this in private mail.


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On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 10:53:15AM -0500, Daniel R. Houle wrote:
> I've been looking at the authsvr and it's security issue about the
> random (or not so-) number generator.  Apparently there is a way to fix
> that by changing the rand() and srand() functions.  Anybody done this
> already?  Anybody know what I should change these functions to?  Should
> I create new ones myself?

I don't know how far you've gotten on this yet, but please consult
Knuth before rolling your own random number generator.  As he says,
most randomly generated random number generators ... aren't.

If the problem is a non-random seed, Marcus Ranum suggested for a
similar problem [and referring to FWTK]:

>				... I also included a utility for generating
> keys but it didn't use very good randomness. If you want to generate
> keys nowadays, why don't you just take a bunch of output from /dev/random
> and run it through od and a sed script? If you haven't got /dev/random
> just run a bunch of ps, uptime, netstat -a, df -i, ls -l /var/log
> piped through sha.

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2000 at 03:48:15AM -0800, Daniel Lutan wrote:
> Hello! My name is Daniel and i'm a student and a beginer in working with TIS. I'm dowloading TIS and I'm starting to compile with make comand but i have an error and i need your help. The error sound like that ( word by word ):
> 
> : No such file or directoryg
> '. Stop. No rule to make target ' Makefile.config.
> 
> I'm running a Suse Linux  6.3 and i rename the file Makefile.config.linux in Makefile.config and the old Makefile.config in Makefile.config1.
> 
> I hope i make my self clear and please send my a response.
> 
> Thank's anyway!
> 
> Daniel.
> 
> MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime!
> http://www.mailcity.com

If you are giving the above literally, then you may have a carriage
return character in your Makefile.  If it is appended to a target name,
and you have a version of 'make' which does not interpret a CR as white
space [which is apparently the case under Linux], then the 'make'
program is trying to find a target whose name has the CR appended!  I
have seen this kind of thing happen when somebody copies a file to
their Micro$oft PC to edit, and then copies it back.

Alternately: 'make' is being called from a shell command file which has
been so modified, and the target name has a CR at the end.

Alternately: you are calling 'make' from the command line, but somehow
have the CRLF settings wrong [although I can't think of anything that
would simultaneously send a CR and give you an end-of-line].

The 'pico' editor is easy to learn on Linux, although 'vi' is known by
more people.

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We have a nosource rpm that could make life easier for people. We are
not sure about legal ramifications, though. The rpm contains no fwtk
source, only the patches at ark's site, and my own patches to make
stuff compile, so we suppose that it would not violate any part of
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This is currently a private internal rpm that has not been
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If anyone who is in contact with NAI could ask them to contact us to 
authorise us to release my code, we could proceed, and make newbie's 
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Otherwise, we shall keep our code to ourselves. We'd love to avoid
any legal stuff: it is in that spirit that we are sending this email.

Thanks,
Blair.

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>  > Oh. Really. What does NAI think about it?
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At 07:07 AM 4/19/00 -0400, James Seymour wrote:
> > From: Rick Murphy <rmurphy@itm-inst.com>
> > It also uses squid as an http proxy.
>
>Apache, actually.

Yup. That's what I get for trying to answer without verifying my memory. I 
didn't want to let people think that T.Rex was "just FWTK" - it's more than 
that, with some real improvements in authentication, for example.
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At 12:53 PM 4/19/00 -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
>If the problem is a non-random seed, Marcus Ranum suggested for a
>similar problem [and referring to FWTK]:
That's precisely the problem. If you've got a /dev/random lying around, use 
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creates is small enough to be quite worrying.
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Hello Mr. Daniel

My Name is Nagaraj ,i successfully configred TIS on redhat 6.1.
I created database for user using authsrv.the problem is whenever i trying
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Hello FWTK users,

There is a nice tool on
http://jenny.tti.co.jp/cgi-bin/checkmail/nph-expntest.cgi
which checks vor EXPN and VRFY vulnerability. Our (and not only our) FWTK
2.1 smap seems to be vulnerable.
This is clearly not, what
                                                                  
 rfc2505: anti-spam recommendations meen.                         
                                                                  


How can we fix this ?

btw. we are using the sabernet anti-spam-patches with MAPS-RBL checking for
smap

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T.Rex is not a FWTK derivative nor does it use squid as the http proxy.
It is clearly stated in the documentation that the httpd proxy is a 
derivative of the Apache web server.
Check out the web site and you will see that the contributors to the T.Rex 
security suite are documented.

Each T.Rex proxy has significantly more function and three to five times as 
much code code as any of the FWTK proxies.

 > At 11:36 AM 4/18/00 -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
 > >Just be aware that not everything labelled a "firewall" is.  FWTK is
 > >one of the first.  There is something recent called T.REX, but I haven't
 > >had time to evaluate it yet - Rick has, and if I understood correctly
 > >thinks that it is about equivalent to an earlier version of FWTK.  [I
 > >know I have oversimplified, Rick.]
 > T.Rex uses smap/smapd, ftp-gw, and tn-gw from Firewall Toolkit 1.3 or so.
 > They've been mildly hacked to change the way they're managed. It also uses
 > squid as an http proxy.

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nuqneH,

Don't believe security scanner programs, period.

th@Netzstation.net said :

> There is a nice tool on
> http://jenny.tti.co.jp/cgi-bin/checkmail/nph-expntest.cgi
> which checks vor EXPN and VRFY vulnerability. Our (and not only our) FWTK
> 2.1 smap seems to be vulnerable.
> This is clearly not, what
>                                                                   
>  rfc2505: anti-spam recommendations meen.                         
>                                                                   
> 
> 
> How can we fix this ?
> 
> btw. we are using the sabernet anti-spam-patches with MAPS-RBL checking for
> smap


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On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 03:42:40PM +0200, th@netzstation.net wrote:
> There is a nice tool on
> http://jenny.tti.co.jp/cgi-bin/checkmail/nph-expntest.cgi
> which checks vor EXPN and VRFY vulnerability. Our (and not only our) FWTK
> 2.1 smap seems to be vulnerable.
> This is clearly not, what
>                                                                   
>  rfc2505: anti-spam recommendations meen.                         
> 
> How can we fix this ?
> 
> btw. we are using the sabernet anti-spam-patches with MAPS-RBL checking for
> smap

I have no idea how those patches affect things.  But there should be NO
e-mail accounts on the machine on which 'smap' runs; therefore, there
should be no meaningful responses to EXPN and VRFY.  All true e-mail
accounts should be on your real e-mail server, buried deep within your
private network.

In fact, the original comments in smap 2.1 include:

 *	Unimplemented commands now return appropriate message instead
 *	on an incorrect answer - particularly EXPN and VRFY no longer
 *	return "User unknown".

and my comments in my compilation of patches include:

**	never used, this is a no-op.]  VRFY and EXPN have been changed
**	in 2.1 to echo any argument.  The rest, except for EHLO, just
**	respond in some random way.
**
**	jsdy CRITIQUE: I don't like the change in VRFY and EXPN,
**	because it doesn't "say what you mean", and because it may
**	encourage cracker kiddies to keep boring in; but it's now 2.1
**	"standard behavior."

In other words, if you say "vrfy santaclaus" it will say "santaclaus",
no matter whether or not there is such an account.  This probably
APPEARS vulnerable to the test you mention above, while not really
being so.

If you don't like this, there is an 'if ... else ...' clause which
sometimes says "User unknown" but usually echoes the input.  Take out
the "if", "else", and echo of the input.

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I discussed this apparent vulnerability with our resident FWTK expert and his 
exact words were:

"smap only pretends to answer those requests.  No security 
information is actually compromised."

I feel safer.

Ken


On 20 Apr 00, at 15:42, th@Netzstation.net wrote:

> There is a nice tool on
> http://jenny.tti.co.jp/cgi-bin/checkmail/nph-expntest.cgi
> which checks vor EXPN and VRFY vulnerability. Our (and not only our) FWTK 2.1
> smap seems to be vulnerable.

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Nagaraj,

Are you seeing the tn-gw username prompt when you connect to the firewall?
Also, what are your logs indicating.  They should be telling you why it
failed.

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> My Name is Nagaraj ,i successfully configred TIS on redhat 6.1.
> I created database for user using authsrv.the problem is whenever i trying
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On 20-Apr-00 Charles Manick Livermore wrote:
> T.Rex is not a FWTK derivative nor does it use squid as the http proxy.

I've quickly checked only ftproxy versus ftp-gw. Whether you call T.REX's
ftproxy a derivative of FWTK's ftp-gw or not depends on your definition of what
"derivative" means. They are not completely identical, neither in functionality
nor in implementation. However quite large portions of ftproxy.c are almost
identical to portions of ftp-gw.c. It's OK with me but I'm afraid that NAI's
lawyers may think otherwise . What's wrong in my opinion is that I've not
found any credit given to FWTK authors in any of ftproxy source files. Or was
it just pure coindence that portions of the code look almost identical
including variable names, order of declarations, indentation etc. ?

> Each T.Rex proxy has significantly more function and three to five times as 
> much code code as any of the FWTK proxies.

So you basically admit that you've reused parts of original FWTK code, is that
correct?

        Martin 

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More does not mean better!  So three times more code does not mean it is
better than FWTK, as they say, "One does not get diamonds as big as
bricks!"

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> T.Rex is not a FWTK derivative nor does it use squid as the http proxy.
> It is clearly stated in the documentation that the httpd proxy is a 
> derivative of the Apache web server.
> Check out the web site and you will see that the contributors to the T.Rex 
> security suite are documented.
> 
> Each T.Rex proxy has significantly more function and three to five times as 
> much code code as any of the FWTK proxies.
> 
>  > At 11:36 AM 4/18/00 -0400, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
>  > >Just be aware that not everything labelled a "firewall" is.  FWTK is
>  > >one of the first.  There is something recent called T.REX, but I haven't
>  > >had time to evaluate it yet - Rick has, and if I understood correctly
>  > >thinks that it is about equivalent to an earlier version of FWTK.  [I
>  > >know I have oversimplified, Rick.]
>  > T.Rex uses smap/smapd, ftp-gw, and tn-gw from Firewall Toolkit 1.3 or so.
>  > They've been mildly hacked to change the way they're managed. It also uses
>  > squid as an http proxy.
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hi Andrew,
              i agree with you entirely. reason being is that a firewall by
nature of the beast 'should' be as minimalistic a system as possible. the 
code needs to be clear and self explanatory. Marcus Ranum who did 
write the FWTK mentioned that it did have some inadequacies... 
but do not see where the sheer amount of code is a good thing.
for instance one of the reasons i like linux so much is that i do not have
to lug around a laptop to get connected at any time. (the equivalent in 
nt world i would need a suitcase and a large shovel;-)) i simply
reach into my shirt pocket and plug in a floppy and voila have enough tools 'in
a pinch  to get the job done' another insight that i have noticed since coding
for  o.. about 50 k hours or so.. in various languages (9) is that i am a
intermediate coder at best:-{  Why? because i have noticed so many times 
when someone else i knew wrote code that i did 10 lines more simply in
2. :-/ now that is a very admirable trait IMHO which is why i say ..
"less is MORE" 
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> More does not mean better!  So three times more code does not mean it is
> better than FWTK, as they say, "One does not get diamonds as big as
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I am more or less forced to enable ICQ from the inside of our firewall,
just not sure how to handle it. Don't have much experience with ICQ, and
I don't like the idea of merely allowing access though normal ports
(4000). How about setting up a private ICQ server on the private net and
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On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 10:53:13AM +0100, A.S.Johnson wrote:
> More does not mean better!  So three times more code does not mean it is
> better than FWTK, as they say, "One does not get diamonds as big as
> bricks!"
> 
> Andrew
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True.  One of the original virtues of FWTK was that the proxies were
written with as little code as possible.  Unfortunately, TIS thought
that they were then self-documenting.  ;-)

More code does not  n e c e s s a r i l y  mean worse, either.  But
more opportunitiess for bugs.

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On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 09:23:25AM -0600, dreamwvr wrote:
> intermediate coder at best:-{  Why? because i have noticed so many times 
> when someone else i knew wrote code that i did 10 lines more simply in
> 2. :-/ now that is a very admirable trait IMHO which is why i say ..
> "less is MORE" 

;-)

Hey, Weaver.

Not necessarily.  I would much rather have 10 simple line that follow
Joe's First Rule of Software Engineering - "Say What You Mean" - than 2
lines that could be entered into the Obfuscated C contest or an APL
beauty contest.  ;-)

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hi Joe,
         ..never thought of that.. often admire as mentioned below.. but really
like heavy..heavy.. commenting when code is one liner that makes my brain
hurt. that way i can follow and learn perhaps about optimized coding. then i can
try it  out and maybe tighten my code considerably.. sure is amazing to see
those  that can do in 2 lines what takes huge effort on my part lucky doing in
10. mind you your correct about it getting obfuscated. but then again 'usually'
most that  can do that simply no longer use English IYKWIM. they are
communicating on  a plane that only when i zone i ever get to.. which although
it happens is  the exception;-{) rather than the rule:-))
				Best Regards,
				dreamwvr@dreamwvr.com  
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 09:23:25AM -0600, dreamwvr wrote:
> > intermediate coder at best:-{  Why? because i have noticed so many times 
> > when someone else i knew wrote code that i did 10 lines more simply in
> > 2. :-/ now that is a very admirable trait IMHO which is why i say ..
> > "less is MORE" 
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Hey, Weaver.
> 
> Not necessarily.  I would much rather have 10 simple line that follow
> Joe's First Rule of Software Engineering - "Say What You Mean" - than 2
> lines that could be entered into the Obfuscated C contest or an APL
> beauty contest.  ;-)
> 
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On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 12:54:11PM -0600, dreamwvr wrote:
> hi Joe,
>          ..never thought of that.. often admire as mentioned below.. but really
> like heavy..heavy.. commenting when code is one liner that makes my brain
> hurt. that way i can follow and learn perhaps about optimized coding. then i can
> try it  out and maybe tighten my code considerably.. sure is amazing to see
> those  that can do in 2 lines what takes huge effort on my part lucky doing in
> 10. mind you your correct about it getting obfuscated. but then again 'usually'
> most that  can do that simply no longer use English IYKWIM. they are
> communicating on  a plane that only when i zone i ever get to.. which although
> it happens is  the exception;-{) rather than the rule:-))
> 				Best Regards,
> 				dreamwvr@dreamwvr.com  

One of the rules of good coding is: let the optimizer optimize.  Let
the human just get it right.  To which end, the First Law.  If you
follow the First Law the way Joe intended it, the code will be about as
optimal as it needs to be, anyway.  ;-)

Once you've got it right, if you instrument the code and find that all
the work is being done in one place, THEN you may want to try
optimizing that one place.  but don't be surprised if your first
attempts either break the code or slow it down.

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Hi Mogens,

I'm running ICQ behind FWTK home.
What I did to make it work? ;p
First i downloaded UDPRELAY (after a while I discoverd the standard version of
udprelay didn't work under linux... but there's a version of it to linux)
and in the /etc/udprelay.conf, i just added:
relay 192.168.2.0 mask 255.255.255.0 * 4000 icq.mirabilis.com 4000 any
And configured the icq-client to connect to the firewall @ port 4000...

But (yes... there allways a but...)
You can't etablish a direct contakt with anyone =(, so if you don't
check the box: "auto-send trough server" an "error box" will apear on the
screen and tell you that... and you can't send or recive files...

I don't know how it works with an internal icq-server
(mirabilis haven't released one to linux...yet...)...
There is noway to get filetransfers to work with udprelay...

I know there wasn't to much help, but i hope
you solve the problem...

Best Regards
//Robban

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>I am more or less forced to enable ICQ from the inside of our firewall,
>just not sure how to handle it. Don't have much experience with ICQ, and
>I don't like the idea of merely allowing access though normal ports
>(4000). How about setting up a private ICQ server on the private net and
>let it handle connections.
>Ideas and product hints more than welcome. We are using both Linux and
>Windoze9x/2k workstations.
>-- 
>Mogens Valentin  WWW: http://www.danbbs.dk/~monz/  mailto:monz@danbbs.dk
>Web, Programming, Network, Security - Installguides and docs for Linux..
>Skaane/Sjaelland Linux User Group (5300++ members) - http://www.sslug.dk
>Use http://www.linux.org/ for freedom of choice with OpenSource software
> 


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Hello all!

I wounder how I should do, i'm trying to let the outside world get access
to my http-server.



HTTP                        FWTK                     INET
192.168.2.5  192.168.2.1 193.150.240.142

Should I use the "forward" option in http-gw, or plug-gw?
I don't know how i should set plug-gw up, so if you rekomend
it maybe you can give me an example on it???

Regards
Robert Olsson

(Excuse my bad english...)



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I have developed a bit better solution for
JavaScript quoting in http-gw.
Apparently, the http-gw seemed to remove
the final quote in situations like:

<a href=Missing_first quote">
<a href=\"Some_guys__put_a_whole_code_in_js_variable\">

The patch enclosed postpones a write of the
final quote, _not_ removing the final quote from
the attribute's value.

The patch should be applied to the original source.

-- 
              << Marcin Cie¶lak // saper@sgh.waw.pl >>

--- http-gw.c_orig	Sun Apr 23 22:38:59 2000
+++ http-gw.c	Mon Apr 24 11:49:51 2000
@@ -1935,6 +1935,7 @@
 	static char value[1028];	/* attribute value */
 	char *p;			/* march thru above fields with this */
 	int quoted = 0;			/* current quote character or 0 */
+	int last_quoted = 0;	/* last character is final quote, skip */
 	int in_blocked = 0;		/* 1 if we are blocking part of HTML */
 	int got_close;			/* 1 if found a slash so match is close */
 	int check_now = 0;		/* 1 if done with field, time to check */
@@ -2237,6 +2238,7 @@
 				if ((p - value) > 1026) p--;
 				if (ch == quoted) {
 					quoted = 0;
+					last_quoted = 1; /* avoid double write */
 					state = IN_WS_1;
 					check_now = 1;
 				}
@@ -2284,10 +2286,6 @@
 			    (!strcasecmp(attribute,"content"))) 
 				    seek_and_destroy(value);
 
-			/* Quote at end removed to avoid double write*/
-			p = value + strlen(value) - 1;
-			if ((*p == '"') || (*p == '\'')) *p = 0;
-
 			/* write out the saved (or rewritten) field now */
 			if (!in_blocked)
 				net_write(sockfd,value,strlen(value));
@@ -2360,9 +2358,12 @@
 				&&
 			(state != IN_ATTRIBUTE)
 				&&
-			(state != IN_VALUE))) {
+			(state != IN_VALUE)
+				&&
+			(!last_quoted))) {
 			write(sockfd, buf, 1);
 		}
+		last_quoted = 0;
 		prev = ch;
 	}
 	/* if we ended due to EOF or content_length but were building up


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Settting up an internal ICQ server would be a good solution security-wise as 
long as you don't need outside ICQ connections.  If you do need connections 
to the outside, the best ICQ functionally is through a Socks5 proxy.  NEC has 
one at http://www.socks.nec.com/socks5.html, though I understand there are 
security implications with Socks5.  I've also been quite successful with 
using ICQ for chatting and file transfers through IPCHAINS/IPMASQ on Linux.

Regards,
Ken Long

On 21 Apr 2000, at 19:07, MONZ wrote:

> I am more or less forced to enable ICQ from the inside of our firewall,
> just not sure how to handle it. Don't have much experience with ICQ, and
> I don't like the idea of merely allowing access though normal ports
> (4000). How about setting up a private ICQ server on the private net and
> let it handle connections.
> Ideas and product hints more than welcome. We are using both Linux and
> Windoze9x/2k workstations.
> -- 
> Mogens Valentin  WWW: http://www.danbbs.dk/~monz/  mailto:monz@danbbs.dk


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At 10:53 AM 4/21/00 +0100, A.S.Johnson wrote:
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>
>
>More does not mean better!  So three times more code does not mean it is
>better than FWTK, as they say, "One does not get diamonds as big as
>bricks!"
The reason FWTK is small was so it could be easily evalutated.
Every bit of the code has been looked at (by thousands of programmers!!) to
insure it doesn't have
any know security problems. Lots of minor mistakes were found. Lots of
changes have been done to eliminate possible
buffer overflows etc...
I have no knowledge about this other product. I have been working with FWTK
since the very begining.
FWTK is a FIREWALL TOOL KIT. It is intended for COMPUTER SECURITY
PROFESSIONALS with a fair amount of 
programming background. It is not intended for people who will not/ can not
read the manuals.

You want an easy to use, precompiled, GUI configured, Firewall with
Fulltime support buy one.
Sorry to rage but nearly half of the problems reported via this list now
are well known problems or
can be solved by READING the instructions.
Maybe it's time to include the full documentation with the fwtk. Last time
i looked it was a seperate download;-)


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On a scale from best functionality to best security the choices for ICQ are:
1. Direct connection with a dedicated ip address
2. Socks5 proxy
3. Ipchains/Ipmasq with the icq module
4. Ip


As we all know, there are always trade-offs between program functionality and 
security. The most secure method is to remove the power plug from the wall. 
At the other end of the spectrum, the best functionality is achieved with a 
direct connection to the Internet and individual public ip addresses.  Most 
of us will fall somewhere between those two extremes.

If allowing ICQ has already been decided then we as administrators need to 
show what options and consequences are available.  Flexibility is key here in 
order to support the business.  Sometimes we have to strongly insist that 
certain functions not be allowed but we have to have our facts in order and 
not rely on a simple "it's against our security policy" argument.  Once in a 
while we find ourselves on the losing end of the argument.  It's important to 
implement the new function with as much security as possible and maybe even 
do a little cya in the process.

If it was easy, anybody could do it.

Ken

On 25 Apr 2000, at 19:00, ark@eltex.ru wrote:

> nuqneH,
> 
> It depends on what you call "best".
> I think it is "best" not to allow icq direct connections because of
> security, control and monitoring reasons (not to speak about socks security
> implications in general i already wrote about some months ago)
> 
> "Ken Long" <ken@lectrosonics.com> said :
> > 
> > Settting up an internal ICQ server would be a good solution security-wise as
> > long as you don't need outside ICQ connections.  If you do need connections
> > to the outside, the best ICQ functionally is through a Socks5 proxy.  NEC
> > has one at http://www.socks.nec.com/socks5.html, though I understand there
> > are security implications with Socks5.  I've also been quite successful with
> > using ICQ for chatting and file transfers through IPCHAINS/IPMASQ on Linux.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ken Long
> > 
> > On 21 Apr 2000, at 19:07, MONZ wrote:
> > 
> > > I am more or less forced to enable ICQ from the inside of our firewall,
> > > just not sure how to handle it. Don't have much experience with ICQ, and I
> > > don't like the idea of merely allowing access though normal ports (4000).
> > > How about setting up a private ICQ server on the private net and let it
> > > handle connections. Ideas and product hints more than welcome. We are
> > > using both Linux and Windoze9x/2k workstations. -- Mogens Valentin  WWW:
> > > http://www.danbbs.dk/~monz/  mailto:monz@danbbs.dk
> > 
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nuqneH,

It depends on what you call "best".
I think it is "best" not to allow icq direct connections because of
security, control and monitoring reasons (not to speak about socks security 
implications in general i already wrote about some months ago)

"Ken Long" <ken@lectrosonics.com> said :

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> Settting up an internal ICQ server would be a good solution security-wise as 
> long as you don't need outside ICQ connections.  If you do need connections 
> to the outside, the best ICQ functionally is through a Socks5 proxy.  NEC has 
> one at http://www.socks.nec.com/socks5.html, though I understand there are 
> security implications with Socks5.  I've also been quite successful with 
> using ICQ for chatting and file transfers through IPCHAINS/IPMASQ on Linux.
> 
> Regards,
> Ken Long
> 
> On 21 Apr 2000, at 19:07, MONZ wrote:
> 
> > I am more or less forced to enable ICQ from the inside of our firewall,
> > just not sure how to handle it. Don't have much experience with ICQ, and
> > I don't like the idea of merely allowing access though normal ports
> > (4000). How about setting up a private ICQ server on the private net and
> > let it handle connections.
> > Ideas and product hints more than welcome. We are using both Linux and
> > Windoze9x/2k workstations.
> > -- 
> > Mogens Valentin  WWW: http://www.danbbs.dk/~monz/  mailto:monz@danbbs.dk
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	Hello, i have one question about smap.

	I installed smap with anti-relay patch. It is working good, but I need that 
smap work as follows:
When someone sends an email to my server with "From: @xxxx.yy", smap send a 
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Is there any possibility to make this with configuration options in 
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Thank you for any suggestions...
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Hi

Could any body tell me.how can i Configure both ftpd and ftp-gw on my
firewall machines.

Thank in advance.
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Hi,

I did it that way (don't know if it's the best solution, but it works)

inetd.conf

 ftp	stream	tcp	nowait	root	/usr/local/etc/netacl	wu.ftpd


netperm-table

 netacl-wu.ftpd: permit-hosts 127.0.0.1 -exec /usr/sbin/wu.ftpd
 netacl-wu.ftpd: permit-hosts 192.168.0.* -exec /usr/local/etc/ftp-gw
 ftp-gw: permit-hosts 192.168.0.*


To access wu-ftpd you have to provide e.g. anonymous@localhost as your
username to the ftp-gw.

Roland Krüppel
Jr. System-Administrator
Quirinus-Gymnasium Neuss

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> Could any body tell me.how can i Configure both ftpd and ftp-gw on my
> firewall machines.
>
> Thank in advance.
> Nagaraj
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hi folks,

I`m using ip filter and installed ftp-gw with appropriate
patches in hopes of gaining more security for my servers
doing ftp.

Well, now I don`t need to open up even relatively small 
port ranges of several thousands ports for them and easily
have centralised logging/blocking of ftp commands.

OTOH I understand that ftp-gw was not designed for this
kind of usage and so can have flaws from this POV.
One of them is obvious to me - a yahoo can connect to 
ftp-gw directly and then jump to any ftp capable host inside
my internal network. I deal with it passing ftp connections
from my ip filter box only to the restricted number of ftp
servers ("-dest" ftp-gw option doesn`t seem to work - "SIOCGNATL
failed - No such process").

My questions follow:

What do you think of this setup? Didn`t I lose security somewhere?

Can ftp-gw be used for at least primitive ftp daemons exploitation protection?
If yes are any modifications required?

Your opinions are very appreciated.

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I am presently having problems compiling the auth module of FWTK 2.1 on RH
6.2 (Intel). The error I get states:

cc -I.. -g -DLINUX  -c -o db.o db.c
db.c:16: ndbm.h: No such file or directory
Make[1]: *** [db.o] Error 1

I am assuming this pertains to issue 1.3.1: "fwtk/auth/db.c:66: undefined
reference to `dbm_open'" errors in the FWTK FAQ. I have confirmed that gdbm
and gdbm-development rpms are installed and the library file (per the FAQ)
/usr/lib/libgdbm.a is present. I have also recompiled gdbm and still no
luck. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

Shon

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Just went through this last week.  Attached below are the patches I made
to enable it to find ndbm.h on my RedHat 6.2 system.  Simply add 'gdbm/'
to the includes in the three files authdum.c authload.c db.c.

There are a few threads in this mailing list discussing this issue.

Hope this is helpful.

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patches/authdump.c.diff
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16c16
< #include      <ndbm.h>
---
> #include      <gdbm/ndbm.h>

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patches/authload.c.diff
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16c16
< #include      <ndbm.h>
---
> #include      <gdbm/ndbm.h>

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patches/db.c.diff
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16c16
< #include      <ndbm.h>
---
> #include      <gdbm/ndbm.h>  







On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Nixon, Anthony wrote:

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> I am presently having problems compiling the auth module of FWTK 2.1 on RH
> 6.2 (Intel). The error I get states:
> 
> cc -I.. -g -DLINUX  -c -o db.o db.c
> db.c:16: ndbm.h: No such file or directory
> Make[1]: *** [db.o] Error 1
> 
> I am assuming this pertains to issue 1.3.1: "fwtk/auth/db.c:66: undefined
> reference to `dbm_open'" errors in the FWTK FAQ. I have confirmed that gdbm
> and gdbm-development rpms are installed and the library file (per the FAQ)
> /usr/lib/libgdbm.a is present. I have also recompiled gdbm and still no
> luck. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Shon
> 
> 


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Hi,

  I've some client PCs inside a fwtk firewall needing to
use Nortel's Extranet Access Client to talk to a Contivity
switch at another location. Is it possible to Proxy ipsec
with fwtk? Any info welcome.

TW

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At 07:25 PM 4/30/00 -0400, Terry Witherspoon wrote:
>Is it possible to Proxy ipsec with fwtk? Any info welcome.
Nope. IPsec uses some non-TCP protocols. About all you can do is to use 
packet filtering rules to permit AH/ESP through (and probably IKE, which 
uses UDP).
         -Rick


